RE: t-and-f: Two Unrelated Questions

2001-07-08 Thread malmo
Phillips Academy is not a place concerned with integrity or veracity. This place more connected than Stanford. If you have to ask malmo has a performance list. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 2:44 PM

t-and-f: Cork City Results

2001-07-08 Thread Der O'Donovan
Junior 1500 Liam RealeLimerick AC3.50.48 1 Martin Fagan Mullingar 3.53.40 2 Damien BatemanMullingar 3.55.72 3 Mark Pollard Scotland 3.55.85 4 Sean Conroy Leevale3.57.23 5 Brian Farrell Inverdee 3.58.76

Re: t-and-f: Re: Liars Club

2001-07-08 Thread Tom Fleming
on 7/7/01 8:33 PM, Edward Koch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Shorter is quoted in the novel Once a Runner as having said that everybody ran 4:30 in high school. Does anyone know who said it first? Ed Koch -Original Message- From: The Barretts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

t-and-f: Boilermaker Results anyone??

2001-07-08 Thread B. Kunnath
Looking for this mornings Boilermaker race results..if anyone can help me. Their website doesnt have them listed yet. Bob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace

2001-07-08 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:28:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Kurt Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 4:10 number came from right here on the list. But I did see several obits that said he set a New England high school record in the two mile. It was merely my wondering what such a

t-and-f: Whatever happened to...

2001-07-08 Thread Brian McGuire
Karl Paranya? Brian McGuire

Re: t-and-f: Boilermaker Results anyone??

2001-07-08 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 7/8/01 11:42:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Their website doesnt have them listed yet. What would you expect? Everyone's still at the brewery, pounding down free suds. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace

2001-07-08 Thread NETRACK
I just sent a note to Walt Murphy. I have been monitoring this thread. I plan to get to The Academy this week to check things further. However, please remember, back in those years the Prep Schools kept their own set of records, apart from the high schools. If he set some type of record in

Re: t-and-f: TV summer

2001-07-08 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 7 Jul 2001 6:04:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Phil Weishaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last big meet I was at was Oly Trails in Atlanta so this may not be new but I always get a kick out of watching the Euro meets and others and see what new tech devices someone comes up

RE: t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace

2001-07-08 Thread Andrew Fitzhugh
But here's the interesting part: in those days the longest distance run in the state meet was the 880! No mile, let alone a deuce! It is possible that a layman would use the term 2-mile run to refer to a cross country race, which may indeed have been at that distance. -- Andy

RE: t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace

2001-07-08 Thread malmo
Is it even clear that Lemon attended Phillips Exeter (Exeter, NH) or Phillips Andover (Andover, MA)? Many confuse the two. And does either school compete in their respective PUBLIC schools State Championships? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: t-and-f: Whatever happened to...

2001-07-08 Thread malmo
Wrong tint in his sunglasses? If so, I'm sure his technicians will correct the problem. He'll be back. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian McGuire Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:53 PM To: T n F List Subject: t-and-f:

t-and-f: All-comers meet in Provo

2001-07-08 Thread Tapio Kuusela
The throwing results of the all-comers meet held in Provo on 7-7-01: Men's discus: 1. Niklas Arrhenius 184-8 (56.28); 2. Daniel Arrhenius 170-8 (52.02); 3. Jeremy Burgess 123-9 (37.71). Intermediate discus: 1. Leif Arrhenius 148-0 (45.11); 2. Tyler Herring 137-3 (41.83). Women's discus: Anna

Re: t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace

2001-07-08 Thread NETRACK
I thought someone mentioned that it was Phillips Andover (MA.) Academy. Phillips Andover does not compete in the Mass. State meet, nor the New England's. I believe the same is true for Phillips Exeter, although I need to double check this. Larry

Re: t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace

2001-07-08 Thread DANIEL DEYO
Phillips Andover, MA http://www.andover.edu - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 2:56 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace I thought someone mentioned that it was Phillips

t-and-f: Maccabiah Games pullout

2001-07-08 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: A story in today's Morris County Record (NJ) reveals that a number of athletes are pulling out of the Maccbiah games because of the current unrest in the Middle East. The story mentioned non NJ track athletes as it stuck pretty much to local people, but we would certainly have

RE: t-and-f: Re: Jack Lemon 1943

2001-07-08 Thread malmo
Class of 1992 Hafsat Abiola - Nigerian political activist; winner, 1999 Women to Watch award, Association of Women's Development Class of 1988 Chris Bischof - Educator; founder, Eastside College Preparatory School, East Palo Alto, Calif., for disadvantaged students Class of 1986 Patrick

t-and-f: Lost in the fine print of L'Equipe

2001-07-08 Thread Ed Gordon
In the Saturday edition of L'Equipe, it was reported that five random EPO tests were done on middle distance runners at the Paris meeting. No more information was given. I don't recall seeing any information about this protocol in the very large, bulky press kit we were given. Knowing

Re: t-and-f: Lost in the fine print of L'Equipe

2001-07-08 Thread phalford
What test does it say was used? The combination of tests used in Sydney? I'm assuming the tests were carried out only on athletes that had agreed beforehand. I doubt very much whether the IAAF would have allowed compulsory EPO testing in one of its Golden League meetings at this early stage.

t-and-f: Record-setting miler to run(and ran) in Utica 15K

2001-07-08 Thread Martin J. Dixon
uld have been a huge hue and cry from anyone who has only a smidgen of T F knowledge. The ongoing participaction dumbing down of our sport continues. http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20010708/2042985.asp

t-and-f: Israeli 65th NC

2001-07-08 Thread D. Eiger
Selected results of the 1st day (Tel Aviv, July 8): Men 100m A Final (+0.1): Gidon Jablonka 10.43, Zbigniew Tulin 10.43, Alex Porkhomovskiy 10.46, Tommy Kafri 10.52, Konstantin Rurak (Ukr) 10.53, Attila Farkas 10.56, Kfir Golan 10.58; B final (-0.1): Leszek Dyja (Pol) 10.57; Heat 1 (+1.2):

t-and-f: SF Marathon Results?

2001-07-08 Thread RunrCoach
Anybody know where results can be found? A.C.

Re: t-and-f: Re: Liars Club

2001-07-08 Thread Tom Derderian
I thought it was Shorter who said it but if everyone ran 4:30 in HS then maybe more than one person later said that everyone ran 4:30 in HS. Tom Derderian - Original Message - From: Tom Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Edward Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Barretts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace

2001-07-08 Thread Edward Koch
Maybe Lemmon really had the 2 mile record back then precisely because it was an event rarely held in high school competition. Sort of like someone claiming a high school record currently in the 2,000 meters. Ed Koch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

t-and-f: Webb's UM roommate

2001-07-08 Thread Martin J. Dixon
To all you US listers out there, while all the media is focussed on Webb and his 15km training runs, this kid is quietly going about his business. Just like another underestimated Canadian, Kevin Sullivan, he broke 4 for the first time with little help and no fanfare at some local meet. Thanks

Re: t-and-f: Re: Requiescat In Pace

2001-07-08 Thread Dave Cameron
Too many disclaimers here: 1. Lemmon ran the 2-mile in a time/place where the 2-mile wasn't run. 2. Lemmon's school didn't participate in the state meet. 3. Lemmon's school didn't participate in some New England championships. What the hell? This is the sort of thing that annoys the hell

t-and-f: WAVA results for July 5 and July 7, 2001

2001-07-08 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: The folks running the WAVA Brisbane Web site have posted a file of results for July 5 and July 7 that some may not be able to view. So I copy-and-pasted them to the Yahoo groups masterstf mailing list. See results at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/masterstf/message/6279

t-and-f: Re: neglect

2001-07-08 Thread Michael J. Roth
Drew, Sorry if the post confused you and/or some others, as that was never the intention. My tone towards Grote is basically because he's nothing but a loud mouth, and he new exactly what I was talking about. He just looks for ways to create problems here and elsewhere. 99% of the list is

t-and-f: Re: Top NJ HS Milers...WALK or RUN

2001-07-08 Thread Michael J. Roth
Grote, Why the gang mentality again? Speak to me if there is a problem, there is no need to bring anyone else into something who is not involved to begin with. As for being defensive, it is only because I find you your comments towards me, and the RW, so offensive without cause other than to

t-and-f: My take on 2008: Give it to China

2001-07-08 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: With inspiration (and quotes) from Ed Parrott, I wrote a column for Sunday editions of my paper on the 2008 Olympic Games host selection. Check out: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/sports/news_1s8utvoice.html Ken Stone http://www.masterstrack.com

Re: t-and-f: Re: Liars Club

2001-07-08 Thread Tom Fleming
on 7/8/01 7:19 PM, Tom Derderian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it was Shorter who said it but if everyone ran 4:30 in HS then maybe more than one person later said that everyone ran 4:30 in HS. Tom Derderian - Original Message - From: Tom Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: t-and-f: Record-setting miler to run(and ran) in Utica 15K

2001-07-08 Thread BFullem1
In a message dated 07/08/2001 5:12:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Similar articles were run in various NY area newspapers. The general media, as usual, has no clue even though Webb tried to explain the basic math to them. From RRW-"Webb finished 138th overall in 54:23

Re: t-and-f: Re: Jack Lemon 1943

2001-07-08 Thread DANIEL DEYO
Yes. Actually Class of '42. - Original Message - From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'DANIEL DEYO' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Re: Jack Lemon 1943 Class of 1992 Hafsat Abiola -

t-and-f: Carroll does not let locals down

2001-07-08 Thread Eamonn Condon
THE IRISH TIMES Monday, July 9, 2001 The middle distance events provided the highlight of the Bupa-sponsored Cork City Sports at the CIT on Saturday. Fittingly, local hero Mark Carroll captured the 1,500m title, fending off the challenges of Australian Craig Mottram and Ugandan Julius Achon

t-and-f: 4:20 Milers

2001-07-08 Thread Brian McGuire
At my high school, (San Rafael High) we were all a bunch of 420 milers...of course this was in the mid-70s. Brian McGuire

Re:t-and-f: Stoned on Schwald (fwd)

2001-07-08 Thread Michael Scott
I figured that the easiest way to put an end to this debate was to simply email Sarah herself and ask; here's her response: Sarah Schwald wrote Please feel free to tell anyone interested that my name is pronounced just as it is spelled. Or phonetically...Sh wald. Take care,