Re: t-and-f: Marion

Dwight, If you read my original reply, and were not so bent on personally attacking everyone on this list out of misplaced anger and a bully mentality that you exude towards the public that pays your salary, you would see that I retracted that statement as being a brainfart on my part, and

t-and-f: the system

Its really sad that every complains about the evil "system" that prevented Hartwig, MJ Mo from competing in Sydney. HELLO, it is not the system, it is the athlete. We have the fairest trials in the world. Stop the bitching, cause none of them has complained once. If the athlete fails here,

t-and-f: RE: the system

The US system is UNFAIR because it allows people the chance to get selected due purely to the non-athletic misfortune of others. In other words, luck has as big a part to play as talent. Life is not FAIR, it is not the US system that causes this, and luck plays a big part in everyone's daily

t-and-f: Re: China clears Chen to compete for U.S.

From the little that has come out regarding this reversal, it would seem that we held our vote for the next Olympics hostage, and Beijing really wants them bad. I guess some good old American political manuevering works well, afterall. MJR

Re: t-and-f: RE: the system

The NCAA would never go for this, as it would interrupt their meet system already in place. Why not just place in the top 3, and stop complaining and making up ridiculous excuses for failure. MJR For all those who are in support of the fairness of the current US selection system, and

t-and-f: re: USA vs. Germany decathlon meet

Results will be up the IAAF, USATF, and LITF sites after the meet ends Sunday. After day one, the Germans lead by 228 pts in the team score. I didn't get to see much of it, cause I'm on the Technical Committee, and it keeps you kinda busy. We tried to get the Germans to go out to experience the

t-and-f: Re: Rome on the Tim Seaman story

All: On Tim: Yes he gets "free" room board, in the sense that he does not have to work a "real job" to pay for it. The majority of his expenses are covered from the following sources: Mom Dad, USATF, USATF-LI, NYAC and various fundraising activities from the RW population which support the

t-and-f: Regina Jacobs Withdraws from 2000 Olympic Games

Contact: Jill M. Geer Director of Communications, USATF In Brisbane: 61-7-3303-8000 http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Saturday, September 9, 2000 Regina Jacobs Withdraws from 2000 Olympic Games BRISBANE, Australia -- U.S. Olympic Track Field Trials champion Regina Jacobs has

t-and-f: NBC Olympic Track Field Coverage

from the usatf website: The following is a listing of broadcast dates and times for NBC's coverage of track and field during the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, Australia. All times listed are Eastern and are subject to change. Friday, September 2210:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.

t-and-f: Ratings don't compare well with past Games

Sunday, September 17 Ratings don't compare well with past Games Associated Press NEW YORK -- NBC's all-tape, all-the-time coverage from the Sydney Olympics on Saturday night produced ratings lagging behind those from other Summer Games.

t-and-f: For the best Olympic Coverage w/o NBC's BS

Check out this site. More fun than a fluffy NBC story. MJR HTTP://www.zdnet.com/yil/content/depts/olympicbuzz/index.html

t-and-f: email nbc

All: To send email to nbc about the "coverage", use the following. MJR To send email to NBC, the address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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t-and-f: IOC double standard?

Seems like a double standard to me. This whole thing at the Olympics was just an attempt to make the US look bad after teh Salt Lake City incident that embarrased the IOC and made them "reform" themselves. Gen. Barry McCaffrey is a no-nothing windbag politician, and should stay in DC with the

Re: t-and-f: LYNN NELSON in ULTRAMARATHON

7:45 pace for 31 miles is good? That pace would not even make the US 50km Race Walk team, and it is supposed to be an excellent run? This should shed some light on the ability of RWers worldwide. MJR

Re: t-and-f: AOY Voting starts now

a guy that hardly anyone has heard of This is only in the US. He is widely known in the rest of the TF world, as are the walks. His gutty prediction that he would take both events and coming through on it even over shadows Marion's performance. The difficulty involved in this double is why no

Re: t-and-f: AOY Voting starts now

Larry, I think it is appropriate to call it a sham, because the TFN voters are educated about the walks. They have also expressed a dislike and disrespect of them as well. A few years back, when I actually was a subscriber to TFN, I wrote a letter complaining about this very issue to them. I

Re: t-and-f: AOY Voting starts now

Ed This poll should be as scientific as the man in the street crap that politicians use in their commercials. ;') MJR ed prytherch wrote: My brother will be over here from England next week. I'll ask him if he has heard of the racewalker. I'll be surprised if he has. Ed.

t-and-f: USOC druglist

For all wanting specific information on drug testing, etc, download the following file. MJR http://www.usoc.org/usoc/drug2000.pdf

t-and-f: re: HGH

Shawn, The USOC lists HGH and Somatotropin as banned substances. I am not sure what the difference is in this product, but it is advertised as being HGH (or a generic equivalent). My guess (not being a doctor or pharmacist) is it is the same stuff w/ a different name. MJR

t-and-f: Privalova plans switch to 800 metres

Privalova plans switch to 800 metres Reuters 12 October 2000 – Moscow - Russia's Irina Privalova said on Thursday she planned to switch to the 800 metres, just three weeks after winning the Olympic 400 metres hurdles title. "After

t-and-f: chicago marathon

A statistical note(s): 12 of the top 25 men 14 of the top 25 women are listed as US athletes, whether they are all citizens I do not know. Not a bad performance from a nation w/o good marathoners in a race touted as having one of the deepest fields ever. MJR

Re: t-and-f: chicago marathon

Impressive nonetheless. I thought those names sounded too "African" to me, they must have been listed by residence and not by nationality. MJR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9 of the top 25 men are Americans. Otieno, Labankette and Kariuki are not from the US as reported. Bruce Meyer KUKIMBIA

t-and-f: drugs

After the little bat tossing incident (the jacka** should have been ejected), and assorted historical events that have checkered his past, any one care to guess which rage-causing substance Mr Clemens might be using? MJR

t-and-f: M.I.A. ?

Someone might want to start a missing persons report on the illustrious E. Garry Hill of TFN fame. We have not been graced by his presence much, if at all, since Sydney. Three theories come to mind: 1. Rather than put a race walker on the cover as Male AOY, he went walkabout with Crocodile

t-and-f: Paralympic sprinter tests positive

Brian Frasure tested positive for nandrolone after winning the silver in the Paralympic 200 meters and will lose his medal, according to spokespersons for the International Paralympic Committee and the USOC. "We think he was taking supplements and these contained anabolic steroids," noted IPC

t-and-f: Re: Doug Schneebeck . . .

All: While I wish Doug all the success possible in his quest, I must agree with Wayne and Mike as well. This in no way is a slight to any Masters competitor, or Masters competition in any way. Whille USATF is to undertake the mission to develop all levels of the sport, the lion's share of the

t-and-f: Holiday Greetings

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

t-and-f: lotsa stuff

All, I've been away at USATF Convention and trying to catch up, so here goes: electronic walking shoes - a bunch of crap! they will never work right or be accepted by the iaaf. we have enough trouble relying on starting blocks which are pressure sensitive to a standard. trying to have shoes

Re: t-and-f: re: changes in the walks

alking" members on this list. Please go elsewhere and start you own "walking'" list so we can talk about REAL track and field events. Mantis -Original Message- From: Michael J. Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track Listserve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, December 20, 2000

t-and-f: re: walkers 10k times

sean, i'll bite, but then i've never been confused with a great athlete as a runner or walker. i also can't go to 10km, as i've never run one, but here goes: runwalk: 800:2:10 1500:4:45 6:58 mile: 5:05

t-and-f: Early season RW results

Here are some early season RW results, top times only. Wisconsin - UW PARKSIDE HOLIDAY OPEN RACE WALKS @ UW Parkside Petretti FieldhouseFriday December 22, 2000200m unbanked track MEN'S INVITATIONAL 5000m 1. Curt ClausenNYAC21:12.3 2. Lachlan Mc Donald UWP 22:06.7 3.

t-and-f: usatf indoor standards

from the usatf website - The committees also approved standards for the 2001 USA Indoor Track Field Championships March 2-3 in Atlanta, Ga. Marks must be achieved between November 24, 2000 and February 24, 2001. Times listed are fully automatic. No allowances are provided for differing track

t-and-f: Clubs

Conway, For the most part, the Club system in the US is non-existent. There are a few milling around, Indiana Invaders is a good example, but for the most part there is nothing going on. That is THE problem w/ TF is the US. This is the reason that a USATF National Club Championship was added

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

Darrell, I agree that the club system cannot wait for Indy to do something, it must go for its own gold. That said, the Nat Club Champs is a great idea, one I've been behind for some time. We also need to go at this from a professional viewpoint, which means corporate sponsorship, etc.

t-and-f: re: clubs

I guarantee if I was young again and inspired to achieve I could find support and coaching and facilities, EASILY. It may not be dropped in my lap but, it is there. Maybe there are not enough of a pool of talented kids to get results from and maybe there is not enough desire and ingenuity to

t-and-f: Millrose Games

It appears that once again TV will take a dump on TF again. The Millrose Games, which runs during primetime on the east coast on a Friday night, will be broadcast in edited tape delay on Saturday afternoon. Surely this meet, of any, can be done live. It runs with an exacting schedule, and

t-and-f: re: clubs

Most clubs in the US are concerned most with participation This is deeper than the problem w/ clubs, it has become a sickness all over this country. The whiny, non athletic, under-achieving losers in this nations have gotten the masses to believe that just trying is a success. This has taken

t-and-f: re: clubs

Why aren't you walking the walk? Good question indeed!! We need more depth there . . . and if you're not walking, then I'll have to turn in a red card! MJR

t-and-f: Re: Clubs

Dave Carey, You have the right approach, too bad it did not pan out for you. Sadly the field events are limited by the equipment necessary to do them. This was a topic at the USATF Convention, access to these materials in the HS and Colleges. I know the National Office has set this as a

RE: t-and-f: 400H

Brian I have to disagree w/ you on the end of race issues. It is a lame excuse. In all the HS 400H races I've seen in NY, only one athlete has fallen and it was not because of the distance involved. The track was covered with black ice. (Not to say it doesn't happen) Track has a history of

t-and-f: translation please

GH wrote: Later in your screed you say: Please provide the American English translation of "screed"! I generally get the Queen's English, but this one has me stumped. MJR

t-and-f: RE: translation, etc

All: I'd like to take the opportunity to thank those who increased my vocabulary this week, it is appreciated. For those who missed the intent, I knew what GH meant, but thoroughly enjoyed his note, and just wished to tease him a bit about his finely obscure knowledge of language. On another

Re: t-and-f: A narrow view for some (looong)

GH, Even though I still disagree (its a right in this country), that was some of the best debate team stuff I've seen in a long time. Its hard to refute the results based upon the facts, as you presented them. Good show, MJR

t-and-f: re: Racewalking MumboJumbo

gh and others, To come to Mike Rohl's defense, he was not calling Grote any of those things. What he said was that the close-minded, knee jerk reactions that cause Grote to hate the walks is the same mental makeup that leads to those other types of people, just in a more extreme way. Grote's

re: t-and-f: Johnny Gray vs USOC?

Ken, I think I remember that this letter signing thing has something to do with the USADA (Drug testing group) and his eligibility for Senior US team competition. But, hey, I've been wrong before. MJR

t-and-f: Alan Webb

Repost from the New Balance Games: Alan Webb 3rd in the elite mile: 3:59.86 MJR

t-and-f: Passing of Nick Katsounis

Sad news from the world of disabled athletics, wheelchair racing specifically. Nick Katsounis, race director of the North American 10km Wheelchair Championship, founding member of the Long Island Association of USATF and tireless agent for disabled athletes, passed away suddenly on January 19th.

t-and-f: Damn ESPN

Once again track gets bumped on TV. The Maryland Elite meet was scheduled for 1-2 pm, but we get stuck with Temple/UMass basketball. On ESPN2 they're in the 2nd hour of motocross. Gimme a f...'n break! MJR

t-and-f: Milrose Walk

Mike, ?Al Heffner U.S. Army Walk? Who's that? Can he get me a subscription to Playboy, maybe the Romanian edition? MJR

Re: t-and-f: Millrose Games Info

Mike, Don't jump on Walt on this one, its not his fault. Blame Indy for the miscue. As the walks are not contested in all of the Golden Spike Tour meets, they are not given press. Its a stupid reason, I know, but Walt is just relaying the release from USATF to the list. MJR

t-and-f: Ritzenhein runs 8:47.3 3200 as one-man relay!

WOW- NUF SAID, MJR MT. PLEASANT MI 1/29/01 -- Rockford MI sr Dathan Ritzenhein showed up at Central Michigan University Monday night prepared to run a fast 3200. But there was no 3200 race scheduled, and MITS meet managers let Ritz run by himself in the

t-and-f: Race Walk on ESPN2

A tidbit of Race Walk news that might interest list members. All the runners should not the Bill Rodgers part at the end. Enjoy, MJR Hi All: Through some happy circumstances and chance meetings, Michael Arnold a producer for ESPN-2 has agreed to cover the 15k National racewalk for a 5 minute

t-and-f: re: USATF Standards

Weldon, The standards were actually set during the USATF Convention in New Mexico, and they were put up on the website a few weeks ago. As for the rationale on May 5th, I have no idea as I did not attend the TF Committee meetings. Maybe someone who attended these sessions could provide us with

t-and-f: Dead Sea Half Marathon

I know there are performance enhancements inhibiters at altitude, but what is the affect of being below sea level? Does this affect sprinters and distances athletes alike? MJR

t-and-f: PVWAtG *** NEWS FLASH *** Dragila WR(?) @ Pocatello

In reference to the runway issue, there are specific guidlines set by the IAAF on what constitutes a legal runway. The Commish or GH can fill us in on the details. At Millrose, one of the first things they did was certify the runway met spec after Stacy's vault. I have no idea what the

t-and-f: drug testing cd

All: Knowing that this might lead to a plethora of unsightly replies, I post this as information only. I found this on a sports science sight and figured some might be interested. MJR _ Drug Test Software Sports Medicine Australia (South Australia branch) is proud to

t-and-f: re: amateurism teams

Mike, On the amatuerism/team topic we agree wholeheartedly, but that should surprise no one on this list!! This summer I had submitted a detailed proposal to score the Golden Spike Tour along team lines. The proposal was given directly to Craig Masback, who said he presented it to the Board of

t-and-f: re: X-C Nats Team Scores?

From the USATF site - MJR - Nike Sweeps Combined Team Scoring at USATF Winter XC Nationals Nike won both the men’s and women’s combined team scoring at last weekend’s 2001 USA Winter Cross Country Nationals in Vancouver, Wash. Team scores were combined from the men’s 12K and 4K

RE: t-and-f: IAAF threat to expel US federation

Another way to look at this is from an X-Files view. There was mention of the IAAF forming a new US group and discrediting USATF. If you remember, Ollan Cassell (former USATF head) was a major IAAF crony for way too long, and surely is still a major player behind the scenes. He was pushed

Re: t-and-f: field-falsie

Darrell said: True the definition of set CAN be wide ranging. If that is he criteria a starter is using, "when all are at set position," then I have no problem. But when the criteria is a count of 3, or discretion of the starter, we have problems. There is a difference between the IAAF rule

Re: t-and-f: field-falsie

Actually its not quite plain. This use of "after" came from the Americanized interpretation of "when" that the Europeans use. If you read my last message, you would have understood that. The Americanization of rules wording is what causes many of the misinterpretations that we Yankees have with

RE: t-and-f: Only 5 American men . . .

Garry, You make some nice points, but look at it from too pointed a perspective. Adding another event to the mix, is a lazy excuse for the coaches. No one is forcing them to coach it, just offer the event in the program for starters, the rest will sort itself out. Use the PV as an example.

t-and-f: Microsoft sponsors Commonwealth Games

I found the following online and was surprised this had not been discussed. I had half-jokingly proposed this to Craig Masback about a year ago, but it never went anywhere to my knowledge. The big question is, why are they not sponsoring this type of thing in the US? Someone out in TF land

t-and-f: LDR Results

Nationwide Insurance 10km Run for Aspire - USATF-LI Championship Men's Top 10 1. Mike Guastella Yaphank 32:51, 2. Liam Kinsella Brooklyn 33:17, 3. Kevin Krause Shoreham 33:27, 4. Brian Cloherty Roslyn Heights 33:46, 5. Juan Estrella New Hyde Park 34:01, 6. Adam Cigliano Oceanside 34:04, 7. Travis

t-and-f: NCAA regionals, etc

The Regionals system is not going to increase the performances of athletes whatsoever. Return the scholarship numbers to what they were in the early 80's and that will make the difference. If you look at collegiate perfomances, esp. the disatances, the level of excellence drops off as the

t-and-f: Re: Scholarships

I wasn't saying that the ladies should get the short end of the stick, but that both numbers should be back to where the men were in the early 80's. As the Final Four became more popular, the NCAA stole scholarships from TF (and other sports) to assure the quality of basketball. I won't touch

t-and-f: Re: Lets Do Regionals

Buck Regionals already exist in the USATF system and culminate with the USATF Club Championships in Indianpolis in July. This was setup to afford a National level meet for emerging elites. It is also a step towards rebuilding the club system to some extent. Check the USATF website for details

t-and-f: European Race Walk Cup

Russian Day in Dudince European Cup in Race Walking – Alfons Juck DUDINCE, May 19, Simply Russian Day – that is the summary of 4th European Cup in Race Walking in South Slovak Spa place Dudince. Russian Walkers won

t-and-f: HUMBOLDT STATE UNIVERSITY PLACED ON PROBATION, WOMEN'S TRACK AND FIELD RECORDS VACATED

HUMBOLDT STATE UNIVERSITY PLACED ON PROBATION, WOMEN'S TRACK AND FIELD RECORDS VACATED INDIANAPOLIS---The Division II Committee on Infractions has placed Humboldt State University on probation for two years, required the university to

t-and-f: re: Trivia Answer

Bob, It was Curt Clausen, not Tim Clausen. You probably combined him with Tim Seaman. Now we can all be reassured that the Commish is human like the rest of us ;) MJR

t-and-f: Golden Gala Results

IAAF Golden League Golden Gala Roma, 29-Jun-2001 RESULTS MEN GP 100 METRES - MENCombined Results Pts 1 Greene Maurice USA 10.01 12.0 2 Montgomery Tim

t-and-f: Golden Gala part II

GP 3000 METRES - WOMEN Pts 1 Yegorova OlgaRUS8:23.96 12.0 2 Zadorozhnaya Yelena RUS8:25.40 10.0 3 Tomashova TatyanaRUS8:25.56 9.0 4 Szabo

t-and-f: re: NJ Superstars

2 other blips on the future-star radar from NJ are Zachary Pollinger and Christina Farrell. Zachary broke the Freshman 1 mile record at the Indoor National Scholastic Champs and Christina was 2nd in the Jr 5000 at Penn as a 12 year old. MJR

Re: t-and-f: re: NJ Superstars

Ryan, There was no neglect at all, and no reason to denigrate these performances by somehow qualifying them as less deserving because of the event that they choose to undertake. Next . . . MJR

t-and-f: Re: neglect

Drew, Sorry if the post confused you and/or some others, as that was never the intention. My tone towards Grote is basically because he's nothing but a loud mouth, and he new exactly what I was talking about. He just looks for ways to create problems here and elsewhere. 99% of the list is

t-and-f: Re: Top NJ HS Milers...WALK or RUN

Grote, Why the gang mentality again? Speak to me if there is a problem, there is no need to bring anyone else into something who is not involved to begin with. As for being defensive, it is only because I find you your comments towards me, and the RW, so offensive without cause other than to

Re: t-and-f: Top NJ HS Milers...WALK or RUN

Sam, Wait, i'm mixing sports here, just as Mr. Roth was mixing powerwalking with running. DUH?! Never done this, never will. Also, I have NEVER, EVER, made any reference to Powerwalking being part of TF. Race Walking, as an Olympic Event, is such. Please take the time to educate yourself.

t-and-f: re: World Youth Qualifying

Ed Qualifying for the World Youth Meet was done at last year's JO Nationals, with athletes wishing to compete (who had qualifying performances) required to compete in the National Youth Meet in Illinois. Basically, the fault lies in some combination of the USATF National Office, your

Re: t-and-f: re: World Youth Qualifying

I agree that there must be cooperation between the Governing bodies involved. USATF has approached all of them to work together, and they all have voting power in the USATF Convention as well. They are not willing to play ball in most cases. Also, the Amateur Athletics Act actually states that

t-and-f: re: Junior Qualifying

Ed said- As far as scheduling the necessary USATF meets to qualify athletes in the same calendar year for the international youth games goes, I would only ask this Why can't the senior and junior USATF meets be held on the same weekend, fior that matter why not in the same place. Both have a

t-and-f: re: Greene goes UpClose

Two-time Olympic gold medalist Maurice Greene will be featured on ESPN's UpClose on Tuesday, July 25. Greene, who is preparing to defend his 1999 World Championship 100m, 200m and 4x100m relay titles at the IAAF World Championships in Edmonton, will appear on the ESPN UpClose set at the ESPNZone

t-and-f: US Medal Count Histories

Stat Buffs (I guess this means GH?) Here are a few nice pages for you: http://www.usatf.org/statistics/OlympicAndWorldChampsMedalCounts.shtml http://www.usatf.org/statistics/WorldChampsMedalBreakdown.shtml Enjoy, MJR

t-and-f: results -premature

i kinda shot my load prematurely, those were the 40km times damn MJR

t-and-f: re: American drug mystery

What's wrong, is this too logical or something? Probably. These are the same people who publicly decry the big US drug monster, but ignored the Eastern Bloc, Chinese programs for years and continue to be blind to the 85% of the nations which do no testing whatsoever. We're an easy target,

t-and-f: reaction times

No finish times discussed here, but Antonio Pettigrew must have been laying down or sleeping to get a reaction time like 0.298 in the 400m final (.105 slower than anyone in the race). This cost him the bronze. I know he likes to start slow and finish strong, but that is ridiculous. I'm a slow,

t-and-f: re: televising distance races

Make it interactive and have the audience vote on who gets bumped off. Hey, get that annoying troll-like little Brit woman to say Goodbye, you're the weakest link! MJR

t-and-f: Linz Meet Results

IAAF Grand Prix Gugl-Meeting Linz, 20-Aug-2001 RESULTS MEN 100 METRES Heat 1 - MEN Wind: -0.3 1 Zakari Abdul AzizGHA 10.12 2 Emedolu Uchenna NGR 10.29 3 Jensen Jake USA 10.48 4

t-and-f: USA TRACK FIELD TRAVEL ADVISORY

USA TRACK FIELD TRAVEL ADVISORY TO: All USATF Athletes, Coaches, Volunteers, Friends Families SUBJECT: Warning to those Traveling Abroad DATE: September 12, 2001 In light of recent tragic events in New York City, Washington, D.C. and Pennsylvania, you are urged to adhere to

t-and-f: LDR summation

All I found this quote on the Johnson's Letsrun.com site. I think it sums up the LDR situation in three sentences. MJR If you put the Kenyans in a camp and give them a training program, they will follow it every day. The Mexicans will come to the camp but then one day say, 'I'm not going to

t-and-f: Stanford XC ?

In all the Women's XC rankings, Jillian Mastroianni is listed as a returnee to the Stanford team. Yet the Stanford website does not list her on the Roster. I do not think she ran in the spring either. Does anyone know the details on her disappearance? Did she redshirt, get hurt, or

t-and-f: NCAA XC Article

All- Before you read the following article, I have one question. If the following becomes a reality, will the NCAA finally up the #s of Scholarships to TF/XC and/or recognize them as different sports for this purpose, therefore doing such in a roundabout way? My guess is NO! MJR

t-and-f: re: Masback Resignation

The time has come for track and field enthusiasts in the United States to step forward and demand the resignation of Craig Masback. If Masback does not resign, we should appeal to Arne Ljundqvist to start whatever procedures are necessary to remove the USATF as the national governing body of

Re: t-and-f: re: Masback Resignation

One has to wonder as to why both IAAF leaks directly affecting Marion Jones came a few days prior to her competing in the Olympic and World Games. I've always thought the timing extremely detrimental to her. Two words: Ollan Cassell He's still a force there. I think he was given a position

Re: t-and-f: What's Embarrassing?

To be more specific, Curt Clausen's finishes in the last 3 Majors (2 WCs 1 OG) have been higher than any US male over 400m. MJR

t-and-f: Sponsorship $$

Reading the following article linked at Letsrun.com, I got pissed. **Puma Picks Up Sponsorship Slack in S. Africa http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=197art_id=ct20011213205129398R565693set_id=6 **It is not very often that Danny de Vito, Samuel L Jackson and Chevy Chase feature in a road

t-and-f: re: sponsorship $$

Dan Aside from a few knowledgeable runners and fans . . . Take their show overseas and people (us, at least) are talking about it, The only reason we know about this is the Johnsons spend way too much time on the internet. They also have all kinds of angles they can play to about helping less

t-and-f: re: High School events added to USA indoor championships

Wayne GH- I couldn't agree with you more! The people who should have the greatest to complain are the athletes themselves. This is downright insulting that they are not getting the attention they deserve. It is bad enough that the media screws them regularly, but for the meet itself to cause

t-and-f: Re: High School events added to USA indoor championships

Wayne scribbled- Good point about the professionalism angle, I didn't think about that. Also, at the risk of being politically incorrect (would I worry about that :-) ), get rid of the disabled, wheelchair, and Special Olympics events. If they have a Special Olympics punt, pass and kick event

t-and-f: Acuff irked by high-jump rule changes

By HOWARD FENDRICH, Associated Press NEW YORK (January 14, 2002 04:29 PM EST) - World-class high jumper Amy Acuff isn't thrilled with rule changes aimed at speeding up her event at the Millrose Games. Maybe it will make it a

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