Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Richard Z.
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 10:06:45AM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote: So the idea is to have natural=hot_spring - the hole in earth where hot water is comming out I see :) So I prefer to switch the icon from Onsen icon ♨ to another ones. it ♨ maybe to use for leisure/amenity scheme. another

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Richard, Aren't volcanos exactly what geothermal refers to, only near or at the surface instead of deep down in the earth? IMHO geothermal refers to using the thermal energy (aka heat) of the earth, which of course in general is higher if you go deeper down, but the temperature per depth is

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Richard Z.
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 11:01:50AM +0100, Peter Wendorff wrote: Aren't volcanos exactly what geothermal refers to, only near or at the surface instead of deep down in the earth? apparently not, I can only direct you to the wikipedia article:

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
In what sense is volcanic heat not geothermal? Original Message From: Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com Sent: March 5, 2014 3:37:52 AM CST To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Hot springs On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-05 12:36 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: I can only direct you to the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_%28geology%29 as this starts to go slightly offtopic I enjoy posting also this wikipedia reference which might be interesting in the context:

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=hop_garden

2014-03-05 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Hello, there is a new tagging proposal released for tagging hop gardens http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hop_garden I would like to hear your comments. Thank you. Regards, chrabros ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=hop_garden

2014-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-05 17:02 GMT+01:00 Dalibor Jelínek dali...@dalibor.cz: Hello, there is a new tagging proposal released for tagging hop gardens http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hop_garden I would like to hear your comments. I won't tag this as a new main landuse class, rather

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
So, if I am understanding you correctly, an onsen doesn't necessarily have water available, but, if water is available, it must be from a hot spring? If onsen doesn't necessarily imply the presence of a hot spring, then I don't think the English translation in the wiki should translate the

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 05/mar/2014 um 17:56 schrieb Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com: The water of onsen bathing amenity is from always natural. And in precise, it is upper 25'C and must have mineral element. (by law) Not from natural water bathing amenity, it must be called Sento (bath house, rough

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Richard Z.
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 09:24:24AM -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: In what sense is volcanic heat not geothermal? In some sense you could argue that volcanos are also heated by geothermal heat but the details are very different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_(geology)#Heat_sources

[Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-05 Thread Robin `ypid` Schneider
Hi I want to discuss the script based fixing of easy mistakes occurring in OSM. It began with a little regular expression and the question how to do automated edits: https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/31169/how-to-change-key-values-based-on-regular-expressions-in-josm Now I have something

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:56:57AM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote: * Onsen without lodging amenity=public_bath leisure=onsen so in this combination which object would you tag with leisure=onsen, the water pool? The same object which is also tagged with public_bath? Looking at

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
I don't see anything in that definition that says the heat from within the earth has to be a minimum distance below the surface in order to be classed as geothermal. Volcanism is a subset of geothermal, where the hot material is particularly close to the surface. Original Message

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 05/mar/2014 um 19:15 schrieb Robin `ypid` Schneider ypi...@aol.de: 'nach vereinbarung' - 'nach Vereinbarung' is this about the key opening_hours or the key öffnungszeiten? wouldn't it be better to change this to by appointment? cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/05/2014 07:15 PM, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote: I wanted to ask if that is OK with you as I will probably add more rules to the script when I come across values which meet my requirements. I would suggest that, if at all, you only make these changes in Germany and not elsewhere,

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-05 Thread Robin `ypid` Schneider
On 05.03.2014 20:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 05/mar/2014 um 19:15 schrieb Robin `ypid` Schneider ypi...@aol.de: 'nach vereinbarung' - 'nach Vereinbarung' is this about the key opening_hours or the key öffnungszeiten? wouldn't it be better to change this to by appointment?

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-05 Thread Robin `ypid` Schneider
On 05.03.2014 21:22, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 03/05/2014 07:15 PM, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote: I wanted to ask if that is OK with you as I will probably add more rules to the script when I come across values which meet my requirements. I would suggest that, if at all, you only make

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Richard Z.
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 12:58:51PM -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: I don't see anything in that definition that says the heat from within the earth has to be a minimum distance below the surface in order to be classed as geothermal. Volcanism is a subset of geothermal, where the hot material

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Richard, Am 05.03.2014 21:50, schrieb Richard Z.: On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 12:58:51PM -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: I don't see anything in that definition that says the heat from within the earth has to be a minimum distance below the surface in order to be classed as geothermal.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=hop_garden

2014-03-05 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Hi, well, I think why I have explained why I do not like both options you suggest on my proposal page. Hop garden is really not an orchard by a long shot. It is true that hop yard is a subset of farmland, but the same is true for meadow, pasture, vineyard, orchard, ... and they have their

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=hop_garden

2014-03-05 Thread johnw
A rice field is a specialized field hat doesn't change . it is Landuse=farm crop=rice An eggplant field has almost the exact same setup, though shorter, and it is landuse=farm crop=vegetable the hop garden is visually distinctive, as is an orchard or a vineyard, and those do have their own