Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: To leave a tag that describes it as a pub (when it is not) then add another tag that says it is not a pub is plain daft. +1 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:20:10 -0700 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 8/24/2015 3:35 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: That's not so bad in lua, but imagine writing ... and not disused=yes into every cartocss rule! Fortunately, we will not have to do that in OpenStreetMap Carto, as we will

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

2015-08-26 Thread johnw
On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: So ALL shops should all be together under shops= (even though all shops are in fact amenities too). Same for offices. This reduces the amenity= values to those that are not offices nor shops. I think the easiest way to

Re: [Tagging] diplomatic institutions (with tl;dr)

2015-08-26 Thread Kieron Thwaites
Take a look at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process --K On 26 August 2015 at 13:10, serpens-...@gmx.de wrote: What is the best way to bring this on a formal way to an official tag? Is wiki:Proposed_features the right place (it is partly about changing existing tags not only

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Richard
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:49:07PM +0100, Chris Hill wrote: On 24/08/15 18:56, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Mateusz, It seems this tag is a combination of waterway=canal and disused=yes. I'm not so in favor of such value (derelict_canal). There are two different information in one value.

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Ruben Maes
Wednesday 26 August 2015 21:04:47, Andrew Errington: Curiously, the disadvantages of disused=yes seem rather contrived, and not really likely, whereas the disadvantages of disused:*=* seem quite genuine. Not to mention that disused=yes is simpler, and very obvious to a human reader. You're

Re: [Tagging] diplomatic institutions (with tl;dr)

2015-08-26 Thread serpens-osm
What is the best way to bring this on a formal way to an official tag? Is wiki:Proposed_features the right place (it is partly about changing existing tags not only about new tags)? Where takes a vote place about this? Best Serpens Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. August 2015 um 14:21 Uhr Von:

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Errington
On 26/08/2015, Richard ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 03:23:10PM +1000, Warin wrote: On 26/08/2015 8:20 AM, Paul Norman wrote: On 8/24/2015 3:35 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: That's not so bad in lua, but imagine writing ... and not disused=yes into every cartocss rule!

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Ruben Maes
Wednesday 26 August 2015 12:51:22, Dave F.: Sub tags such as disused=yes have always been the way to describe additional attributes of an entity. It's even the syntax used by XML: you collect all 'waterway=canal' items then manipulate that selection set. If programmers don't notice then,

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/08/2015 12:51, Dave F. wrote: Sub tags such as disused=yes have always been the way to describe additional attributes of an entity. It's even the syntax used by XML: you collect all 'waterway=canal' items then manipulate that selection set. If programmers don't notice then, quite

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Dave F.
On 25/08/2015 23:20, Paul Norman wrote: On 8/24/2015 3:35 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: That's not so bad in lua, but imagine writing ... and not disused=yes into every cartocss rule! Fortunately, we will not have to do that in OpenStreetMap Carto, as we will not be supporting the style of

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Dave F.
On 24/08/2015 21:49, Chris Hill wrote: On 24/08/15 18:56, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Mateusz, It seems this tag is a combination of waterway=canal and disused=yes. I'm not so in favor of such value (derelict_canal). There are two different information in one value. I think that

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Richard
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 03:23:10PM +1000, Warin wrote: On 26/08/2015 8:20 AM, Paul Norman wrote: On 8/24/2015 3:35 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: That's not so bad in lua, but imagine writing ... and not disused=yes into every cartocss rule! Fortunately, we will not have to do that in

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/08/2015 13:44, Dave F. wrote: On 25/08/2015 23:20, Paul Norman wrote: On 8/24/2015 3:35 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: That's not so bad in lua, but imagine writing ... and not disused=yes into every cartocss rule! Fortunately, we will not have to do that in OpenStreetMap Carto, as we will

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Dave F.
On 26/08/2015 13:34, Andy Townsend wrote: On 26/08/2015 12:51, Dave F. wrote: Sub tags such as disused=yes have always been the way to describe additional attributes of an entity. It's even the syntax used by XML: you collect all 'waterway=canal' items then manipulate that selection set. If

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Chris Hill
On 26/08/15 13:44, Dave F. wrote: A pub that's closed down it's still recognisable as a pub. It's not a park bench or a multi-storey car park. It's just closed. This should be described in sub tags. No, a pub that is closed is simply not open for business until it reopens the next day. A

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/26/15 8:55 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 26/08/2015 13:44, Dave F. wrote: On 25/08/2015 23:20, Paul Norman wrote: On 8/24/2015 3:35 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: That's not so bad in lua, but imagine writing ... and not disused=yes into every cartocss rule! Fortunately, we will not have to