Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:54:45 +0100 Colin Smale wrote: > Duck test: short link between two primaries is primary_link, so a > short link between two residentials is residential_link. The fact > that it is a very rare scenario does not detract from the fact that > it is

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > 2015-11-10 14:07 GMT+01:00 Greg Troxel : > >> So I would lean to calling this highway=residential and perhaps >> link=yes > > I think unclassified is ok, like it is now. There's really nothing > residential about this way,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging dangerous intersections

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:24:13 +0200 Kieron Thwaites wrote: > Hi, > > I recently passed through an intersection in a particularly dodgy part > of town that actually had warning signs up, warning motorists that > said intersection is a hotspot for "smash and grab"

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On 10/11/2015, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> What ambiguity of repair_station would be cleared by tool_stand or >> tool_station ? > > it is the word "station" that could be interpreted as a shop / service > station. "stand" does not bear this risk (for me). "tool_station"

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

To me residential_link doesn't provide any meaningful distinction to warrant a new highway tag. Maybe you misunderstood what link is about. Links are for when collision-less means of joining or leaving high(er) speed traffic are needed. From what I know about your residential_link examples it's

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

2015-11-10 14:07 GMT+01:00 Greg Troxel : > So I would lean to calling this highway=residential and perhaps > link=yes > I think unclassified is ok, like it is now. There's really nothing residential about this way, nor the surroundings. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

2015-11-10 13:31 GMT+01:00 moltonel 3x Combo : > >> I like amenity=bicycle_tool_stand, > > > > +1, "repair_station" is ambigous / can easily be misunderstood. Even > though > > "amenity=self_serve_bicycle_tool_stand" looks like an overkill on first > > sight, it is even more

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

>> What ambiguity of repair_station would be cleared by tool_stand or >> tool_station ? > it is the word "station" that could be interpreted as a shop / service > station. "stand" does not bear this risk (for me). "tool_station" would be Additionally, "repair" does not state who does the

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:31:08 -0500 Bryan Housel wrote: > Please consider the one I just added today: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/379558356#map=19/40.68812/-74.38970 > > > > > Can you provide an

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

Please consider the one I just added today: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/379558356#map=19/40.68812/-74.38970 > Can you provide an example of real situation where > highway=residential_link makes sense?

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

No, I can't think of any real examples at the moment, but that doesn't make them any less existable. And if they exist, then highway=residential_link is more logical than forcing highway=residential and adding link=yes or some other flag to distinguish them. On 2015-11-10 17:19, Mateusz

[Tagging] time-conditioned turn restriction

Looking at the pages for turn restrictions and conditional restrictions, I gather that you would map a left turn restriction that is only valid between 6am and 9am and again between 4pm and 7pm as: type=restriction;restriction=no_left_turn; no_left_turn:conditional=no @ (Mo-Fr

Re: [Tagging] Tagging dangerous intersections

On 2015-11-10 10:24, Kieron Thwaites wrote : > Hi, > > I recently passed through an intersection in a particularly dodgy part > of town that actually had warning signs up, warning motorists that > said intersection is a hotspot for "smash and grab" robberies. (If > anyone is interested, it's on

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

2015-11-10 17:19 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > Can you provide an example of real situation where > highway=residential_link makes sense? > Maybe in situations like this:

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

That is exactly the type of place I’d consider using a highway=residential_link tag. > On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Please consider the one I just added today: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/379558356#map=19/40.68812/-74.38970 >

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

Many see _link only as slip roads. But using it for at-grade junctions like described in the wiki has one advantage: _link is usually tagged without a name because it connects two named roads and has none itself. Using no link gives many warning in QA tools. Using highway=residential plus

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:24 AM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > I don't see how a name change will help. > amenity=bicycle_repair_station and service:bycicle:repair=yes are > rather self-explanatory and well defined as far as I can tell. > Abandoning a tag because some large

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:34:14 +0900 John Willis wrote: > > > > On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Guertin > > wrote: > > > > amenity=bicycle_tool_stand > > +1 > > Self_serve_bicycle_tool_stand is also good too, if you want to really > drive the point

[Tagging] WG: [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

hell, forgot again to set the list on cc :-( see below. I think tagging is really the better place for it. Gerd Von: Gerd Petermann Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. November 2015 09:46 An: Mateusz Konieczny Betreff: AW: [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link I don't

[Tagging] Tagging dangerous intersections

Hi, I recently passed through an intersection in a particularly dodgy part of town that actually had warning signs up, warning motorists that said intersection is a hotspot for "smash and grab" robberies. (If anyone is interested, it's on Google Streetview too: https://goo.gl/maps/kYkdMR9Kmpk)

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

2015-11-10 9:38 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > > I like amenity=bicycle_tool_stand, +1, "repair_station" is ambigous / can easily be misunderstood. Even though "amenity=self_serve_bicycle_tool_stand" looks like an overkill on first sight, it is even more verbose and less

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: > > Surely this is a rendering problem? > > In other words, if there are many named traffic lights within a > certain distance of each other then only one symbol/name/whatever > should be rendered? If the traffic

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

Tod Fitch wrote on 2015-11-10 06:57: If the two roads the connecting way links are tagged as residential I don’t see > any other choice than to use residential_link. I'm skeptical about highway=residential_link as it further fragments the usage of the highway key. I prefer to consider

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On 10/11/2015, Andrew Guertin wrote: > On 11/09/2015 09:41 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: >> amenity=bicycle_repair_station has a problem: it's attracting lots of >> active tagging >> of shops offering bicycle repair. For example: >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3772809894

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On 10/11/2015, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2015-11-10 9:38 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > >> I like amenity=bicycle_tool_stand, > > +1, "repair_station" is ambigous / can easily be misunderstood. Even though > "amenity=self_serve_bicycle_tool_stand"

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On 10/11/2015 02:41, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: amenity=bicycle_repair_station has a problem: it's attracting lots of active tagging of shops offering bicycle repair. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3772809894 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/337421757 Have you asked why? I

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

Duck test: short link between two primaries is primary_link, so a short link between two residentials is residential_link. The fact that it is a very rare scenario does not detract from the fact that it is existable. Why resort to a different tagging pattern if it fits in the one we use for

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Can you provide an example of real situation where > highway=residential_link makes sense? In my city (in South America) it is very common to have this type of roads https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/253086441

Re: [Tagging] Tagging dangerous intersections

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:15 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > For start, traffic sign itself may be also mapped. It would also make > clear that hazard (or other method to tag this) is based on something > verifiable, not opinion of the mapper. Sounds like a similar

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 11/7/15 6:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > > > >> Am 07.11.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Richard Fairhurst >: > >> > >> To do it properly and > >> lessen the chance of

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On 11/11/2015 11:24 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:24 AM, moltonel 3x Combo > wrote: I don't see how a name change will help. amenity=bicycle_repair_station and service:bycicle:repair=yes are rather

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 5:39 AM, moltonel 3x Combo > wrote: > >> While I agree that relations can break and can be tricky to edit, I >> find it tiring to see this argument repeatedly used

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

2015-11-10 13:20 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer : > > highway=service + service=residential_link or highway=residential + highway_link=yes cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Tagging dangerous intersections

The situation you describe is a social hazard, and if continued it would lead to mapping social hotspots in general, which would be a very controversial issue, that could be seen as discrimination by people living there. In larger towns you see lots of warnings, e.g. pickpocketing in crowded

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

Tom, To avoid key fragmentation? Really? Apparently creating is_link=yes is OK, but using residential_link is wrong. People only cite things like "key fragmentation" when it appears to support their case; it is not really an active Basic Principle of OSM. If it was, there are probably loads

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

Colin Smale wrote on 2015-11-10 13:54: Duck test: short link between two primaries is primary_link, so a short link > between two residentials is residential_link. The fact that it is a very rare > scenario does not detract from the fact that it is existable. > Why resort to a different

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

Andrew Guertin writes: > A question recently came up as to whether highway=residential_link is > a meaningful tag or whether uses of it should be changed to some other > value (like highway=residential or highway=service). > > This tag has no description in the wiki,