Re: [Tagging] landuse=aquaculture with wateruse=aquaculture

2017-01-11 Thread Dave Swarthout
I had completely forgotten the case of aquacuture in the ocean seeing as I'm in Thailand at the moment. In my summer home, which is Alaska, there are sizable ocean areas devoted to raising shellfish like oysters. The term for this is mariculture but I don't think that would play well with landuse.

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

2017-01-11 Thread Warin
On 12-Jan-17 04:45 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: I thought that someone told me it has to be something like crop=tomato (for fields) produce=tomato is also correct. There are things called 'produce markets' where fresh produce is sold. Humm looks like the term 'Farmers Market' is more popular.

Re: [Tagging] ref:forward and ref:backward?

2017-01-11 Thread roadsguy99
In retrospect I really don’t know what the point of my question was. I certainly use route relations, and since ref is only really used for the renderer, I don’t know what I was thinking ref:forward and ref:backward would be useful for… From: Paul Johnson Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎January‎ ‎11‎,

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
I thought that someone told me it has to be something like crop=tomato (for fields) produce=milk (some human intervention) product=handbag (a lot of human/machine handling) but I'll admit that there are a lot of grey/gray areas (what is a lot ?). But that's life, nothing is just black and white.

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

2017-01-11 Thread Warin
On 12-Jan-17 03:22 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: I thought crop was for farmland, produce for factories in case of "natural" products such as dairy related goods. and product for factories in case of more man made products such as hifi, cars, etc. m Note the 'ce' on the end of 'produce' compared to

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
I thought crop was for farmland, produce for factories in case of "natural" products such as dairy related goods. and product for factories in case of more man made products such as hifi, cars, etc. m On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Following on

Re: [Tagging] landuse=aquaculture with wateruse=aquaculture

2017-01-11 Thread Warin
On 12-Jan-17 11:19 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: Here is Thailand there is a lot of aquaculture going on. Almost all of Thailand's fish and shellfish (shrimp, mussels, oysters, squid, cuttlefish) come from such farms and the countryside is littered with them. My practice has been to enclose the

[Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

2017-01-11 Thread Warin
Hi, Following on from landuse=grass .. I have been looking at appropriate tags for those areas used to actually produce grass ... or sod .. or turf as 2 other words. From the wiki I first got crop .. which suits. Further searching got produce which also suits. I then looked at the usage -

Re: [Tagging] landuse=aquaculture with wateruse=aquaculture

2017-01-11 Thread Dave Swarthout
Here is Thailand there is a lot of aquaculture going on. Almost all of Thailand's fish and shellfish (shrimp, mussels, oysters, squid, cuttlefish) come from such farms and the countryside is littered with them. My practice has been to enclose the entire area including the ponds and buildings and

[Tagging] landuse=aquaculture with wateruse=aquaculture

2017-01-11 Thread Warin
Hi, There are a number of instances of the tag landuse=aquaculture present on water. Specifically landuse=aquaculture with produce=oyster. I think these would be better tagged wateruse=aquaculture. The landuse tag may have been used as that is what is available on the wiki and it may get

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Chris Hill
The green spaces ( and concrete or whatever) around a road are part of the infrastructure of a road. If the road wasn't there the land would have another use, such as farmland. So I believe this should be landuse=highway. It is being used as part of the surroundings of the highway. It doesn't

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Warin
And I disagree with all of them being leisure=garden. The green patches between a road and a footway are not 'leisure' things .. they are 'safety' things .. particularly beside busy roads. If these same areas were covered with concrete .. would you still think of them as 'leisure'? In other

Re: [Tagging] ref:forward and ref:backward?

2017-01-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Short answer: No. Long answer: Get on board with road relations already. On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Albert Pundt wrote: > Are ref:forward and ref:backward valid tags for use? Though only existing > in short, isolated instances, there are many segments of road where

[Tagging] ref:forward and ref:backward?

2017-01-11 Thread Albert Pundt
Are ref:forward and ref:backward valid tags for use? Though only existing in short, isolated instances, there are many segments of road where a route only follows one direction of a way, and some where another route follows only the other direction, such as at a complex route junction. Are

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-01-11 12:45 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis : > The wiki page on garden [1] explicitly mentions private gardens, e.g. > around castles. > So yes, for a private garden, you will have the tags: > landuse=residential, access=private, leisure=garden + smaller polygons > with landcover

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread John Willis
> On Jan 11, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: > > To help us focus on what type of “green” I’m (and others) are thinking of, I > have prepared a photo-collage: > > https://marczoutendijk.stackstorage.com/s/guN1x7PBfZfP1ZR >

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Yves wrote: > Garden with access=no? Only for the eyes. The wiki page on garden [1] explicitly mentions private gardens, e.g. around castles. So yes, for a private garden, you will have the tags: landuse=residential, access=private,

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread John Willis
> On Jan 11, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > think every place in the world should ideally belong to: > - a landuse > - a landcover polygon That is awesome. If you have a building, the plants and trees around the building belongs to the land the building sits

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Volker Schmidt
leisure=garden AND access=no is in use and makes sense in at least some of these cases. Example 1: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/415758264#map=19/45.28172/11.86906 https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/YpCZViSYxsck1Y--w1yoFw https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/I19C6pBr9Bz9nUzXysWS3A Example 2

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Volker Schmidt
@Marc Zoutendijk thanks for the photos. I agree with all of them as leisure=garden, except for the bottom right one. From the photo it is not clear whether this is spontaneous vegetation or planted vegetation. Only n the latter case I would accept the garden concept On 11 January 2017 at 10:56,

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Yves
Garden with access=no? Only for the eyes. Yves Le 11 janvier 2017 10:56:02 GMT+01:00, Marc Zoutendijk a écrit : > >> Op 10 jan. 2017, om 05:14 heeft Marc Gemis het >volgende geschreven: >> >> I thought the original question was broader than just

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
As I wrote on the Dutch forum, I see at least some leisure=park, leisure=garden, natural=grassfield, natural=water+water=pond on your photos. You loose a lot of information if you map them all with village_green. IMHO, a "village_green" outside the UK is a park, garden or recreation_ground in OSM

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
> Op 10 jan. 2017, om 05:14 heeft Marc Gemis het > volgende geschreven: > > I thought the original question was broader than just the patches of > green next to the road. I also want to know how to map those green > patches when they are not part of roundabouts, or are