Re: [Tagging] Public art definition

2018-01-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-26 23:34 GMT+01:00 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > My thought would be that "public artwork" is, as the wiki suggests, > artwork (be in murals, statues or whatever) in the street, park, shopping > centre or foyer of an open building ie publicly accessible, without payment >

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Johnparis
HTML has for non-breakable spaces (Unicode U+00A0). HTML has for soft hyphens (Unicode U+00AD). -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 23:04:32 +0100 From: Richard To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"

Re: [Tagging] How to tag this area

2018-01-26 Thread Dave F
I see a licensing problem. Why? As long as OSMDoudou is using a valid source to map, it doesn't matter how he refers the information to the rest of us. DaveF ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] How to tag this area

2018-01-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It is perfectly fine to use copyrighted maps, images etc during discussion. We may not make edits based on them but it does not extend to banning linking to them in discussions. On 27 Jan 2018 12:32 a.m., "marc marc" wrote: > Le 26. 01. 18 à 23:35, OSMDoudou a écrit

Re: [Tagging] How to tag this area

2018-01-26 Thread marc marc
Le 26. 01. 18 à 23:35, OSMDoudou a écrit : > I see > [1] https://goo.gl/maps/toZ8QvVUB7w I see a licensing problem. please give a valid source instead of using an invalid one ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] How to tag this area

2018-01-26 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I would tag the entire place between buildings as place=square, the flat surfaces as highway=pedestrian+area=yes, the steps as area steps [1] and the bleachers as leisure=bleachers. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Area-steps Javier El 26 ene. 2018 22:36, "OSMDoudou" <

Re: [Tagging] How to tag this area

2018-01-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 27 January 2018 at 08:35, OSMDoudou < 19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I can't find how to properly tag this place. [1] > > No name pops to mind to represent its purpose: forum, amphitheatre, > pedestrian, speakers corner, etc. don't correspond to suitable

[Tagging] How to tag this area

2018-01-26 Thread OSMDoudou
Hello, I can't find how to properly tag this place. [1] No name pops to mind to represent its purpose: forum, amphitheatre, pedestrian, speakers corner, etc. don't correspond to suitable tags. I see a "circle area made of steps where you can sit and meet people", but that won't make a good

Re: [Tagging] Public art definition

2018-01-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 27 January 2018 at 06:00, Daniel Koć wrote: > During discussing rendering of artwork in Louvre: > > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3031 > > it became non obvious to me what is the "public art" and what should be > definition on the wiki: > >

Re: [Tagging] Public art definition

2018-01-26 Thread Tom Pfeifer
I don't see exhibitions in museums following the definition of public art. While they are accessible to the public when visiting the museum, they are not as accessible as an outdoor installation in urban spaces. There should be a different tagging scheme for them, e.g. exhibit=artwork tom On

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Richard
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 03:48:42PM +0100, Matej Lieskovský wrote: > Greetings! > > Several Slavic languages have rather formal rules about line breaks. the problem is much broader, sooner or later OSM rendering will hit word splitting. > PS: The rules are formal enough that there exists a 1997

[Tagging] Public art definition

2018-01-26 Thread Daniel Koć
During discussing rendering of artwork in Louvre: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3031 it became non obvious to me what is the "public art" and what should be definition on the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dartwork Currently it's defined

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Matej Lieskovský
@Erkin: Yes, but the full form can contain a contraction. There is an public transport stop in Prague called "I. P. Pavlova" and (unlike the nearby "náměstí Ivana Petroviče Pavlova") it is ALWAYS written as an abbreviation. Signs, official documents, spoken language... there is a point after which

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Richard
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 09:09:12PM +0300, Erkin Alp Güney wrote: > > (and yes, there are cases when you should use a contraction) > name=* is full form. Not abbreviated in any way. this is about the case where the official name is an abbreviation, happens often enough. Richard

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-26 19:09 GMT+01:00 Erkin Alp Güney : > > (and yes, there are cases when you should use a contraction) > name=* is full form. Not abbreviated in any way. There are also other name tags, in particular "official_name", which also are about full (and official)

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
> (and yes, there are cases when you should use a contraction) name=* is full form. Not abbreviated in any way. Yours, faithfully Erkin Alp ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/01/2018 14:48, Matej Lieskovský wrote: ... we reached out to the DWG, which did not solve the dispute. For completeness, I actually suggested posting here rather than have the DWG issue a "commandment" - I have some knowledge of Czech and Czech grammar but not much, and it made sense

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread marc marc
Your explanation clearly spoke of a space between words. I was referring to syllables only as an example. In French also there are nonbreakable space like for "M. Dupont". I don't think it's the right place to put grammar rules in osm. imho we need a place where all tools that need it can retrieve

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Jo
I think it would be best to make the tools we use JOSM, Overpass API, iD, etc. Unicode aware, so they can handle this correctly. Polyglot 2018-01-26 16:50 GMT+01:00 Matej Lieskovský : > @marc: I just realized - I'm not talking about breaking words between > syllables

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Matej Lieskovský
@marc: I just realized - I'm not talking about breaking words between syllables but about breaking lines between words. It is not adding a character, just using a nonbreakable version of a space. Sorry if I'm not being clear. On 26 January 2018 at 16:47, Matej Lieskovský

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Matej Lieskovský
In Czech, a nonbreakable space should follow any single-letter preposition or conjunction and academic or military titles. A nonbreakable space should also be used due to some common contractions, between a number and a unit, and around some punctuation marks. I noticed that some Overpass queries

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread marc marc
Le 26. 01. 18 à 15:48, Matej Lieskovský a écrit : > Several Slavic languages have rather formal rules about line breaks. it depends on whether it is a grammar rule or a "char". In French, it is a rule to know how to cut a word at the end of a line. Since it's a grammar rule, I don't see any

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
Can you elaborate a bit more? 26-01-2018 17:48 tarihinde Matej Lieskovský yazdı: > Greetings! > > Several Slavic languages have rather formal rules about line breaks. > We in Czechia have a few contributors who take the time to add > nonbreakable spaces to names that "need" them. Needless to

[Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

2018-01-26 Thread Matej Lieskovský
Greetings! Several Slavic languages have rather formal rules about line breaks. We in Czechia have a few contributors who take the time to add nonbreakable spaces to names that "need" them. Needless to say, the current situation is rather inconsistent, with nonbreakable spaces occurring in the

Re: [Tagging] Mapping metro (subway) stations

2018-01-26 Thread marc marc
Le 26. 01. 18 à 10:13, yo paseopor a écrit : > I was remapping subway stations in Barcelona > (Spain), following https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Metro_Mapping . It should be better to move this to /proposed_feature/ to avoid misleading people. The small banner seems not enought to warn

[Tagging] Mapping metro (subway) stations

2018-01-26 Thread yo paseopor
Hello I have a problem. I was remapping subway stations in Barcelona (Spain), following https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Metro_Mapping . Also I was connecting the stations with some indoor mapping, with corridors as ways and tags with levels, basically, but they doesn't appear in OpenLevelUp