Re: [Tagging] Bannered/Special routes (Business, Alternate, etc.) in ref tags

2018-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Albert Pundt wrote: > Sometimes bannered routes like business and alternate routes are tagged > with, for example, ref=US 1 Business, spelling it out fully, and other > times they abbreviate it, e.g. ref=US 1 Alt. Which is considered the

[Tagging] Bannered/Special routes (Business, Alternate, etc.) in ref tags

2018-04-12 Thread Albert Pundt
Sometimes bannered routes like business and alternate routes are tagged with, for example, ref=US 1 Business, spelling it out fully, and other times they abbreviate it, e.g. ref=US 1 Alt. Which is considered the best practice? We already abbreviate the US, I, etc., so it's not a stretch to

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Apr 2018, at 11:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > amenity = cafe > operator = Foobar > > We don't have specific tags for other types of operators (public > company private company, sole trader, cooperative, charity, etc); why > would we need

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

2018-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Apr 2018, at 11:28, Marc Gemis wrote: > > So what are you going to use/propose ? landcover or man_made ? if I had to choose a value for landcover I would use “flowers”, similar to “trees” or “grass” cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Marc Gemis
For the case at hand, it's an n.v (naamloze venootschap). A limited company. Says nothing at all about the area in which the company operates. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > NGO is not the correct term. > The Italian social cooperatives are,

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
NGO is not the correct term. The Italian social cooperatives are, normally, small companies. That is much different form NGO [1], I think. In particular they are for-profit businesses. My earlier point was that if you put the operator's name in the "operator" tag, this would, in Italy, normally

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread gppes_osm
> for the tag : operator:type=ngo > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type > for the "publicly available" : for the two establishments of this type I > know, being a "outreach project" is a part of the goal. we also go there > to help the project and not just for the poi itself, so

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Marc Gemis
So I will add social_facility=outreach (and hope no-one thinks it is only accessible for people in an outreach group) operator=Foobar operator:type:ngo for now. In case new/better ideas pop-up, feel free to let me know. m. p.s. @Volker: I totally understand your viewpoint. I was wondering

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

2018-04-12 Thread Marc Gemis
So what are you going to use/propose ? landcover or man_made ? Curious, because I want to correct my mapping. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:01 AM, John Willis wrote: > > >> On Apr 12, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >> >> landuses don’t refer

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
Marc, to be clear, if a project clearly advertises it, they indicate they wish it to be known. My point was only to be cautious about adding it without having checked that the project in question wishes this to be known. Unfortunately our society includes all sorts of weird people. I am German

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 April 2018 at 06:23, Marc Gemis wrote: > How do you tag a cafe (or any other amenity) that is run as part of an > outreach project ? amenity = cafe operator = Foobar We don't have specific tags for other types of operators (public company private company, sole

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread marc marc
for the tag : operator:type=ngo https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type for the "publicly available" : for the two establishments of this type I know, being a "outreach project" is a part of the goal. we also go there to help the project and not just for the poi itself, so it

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

2018-04-12 Thread John Willis
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > landuses don’t refer to features like a house or a supermarket, they refer to > a purpose/activity class like retail, residential, industrial or commercial. Yea, you got me on that one. You are right

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-04-12 7:23 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > How do you tag a cafe (or any other amenity) that is run as part of an > outreach project ? > The cafe is available to everyone, but the employees are part of an > outreach project (e.g. people with disabilities). amenity=cafe

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

2018-04-12 Thread John Willis
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I thought you also agreed they could be seen as a kind of garden? It isn’t > the only possibility, one might also see them as a kind of park, or maybe > even a kind of meadow, but my choice, from what I

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Marc Gemis
In both cases I encountered, the website clearly states it: (In Dutch) http://widar.be/widar/beleven/den-bayerd-het-casino/ clearly states "people with an handicap" https://www.mechelen.be/eetcafe-t-ass-2 It mentions people with a form of autism (it is worded more nicely in Dutch) there is

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

2018-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Apr 2018, at 02:54, John Willis wrote: > > A flower park is not a farm either. The purpose of the land is still to grow > ornamental flowers for enjoying their beauty there. I thought you also agreed they could be seen as a kind of garden? It isn’t

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

2018-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Apr 2018, at 02:54, John Willis wrote: > > You can't nest landuses? We nest every other type of area. we don’t nest every type of area, for example we don’t nest buildings, nor do we nest admin boundaries of the same admin level. cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
This is a tricky issue. I expect not all of them to be happy to publicise that fact. We have here in Italy many businesses or amenities that are run by social cooperatives [1] that employ people with special needs. From the Wikipedia article it seems that similar forms are common in Belgium. In