Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Nick Bolten
> IMO wheelchair=yes means accessible for most basic wheelchairs. Yes, but it's something that is frequently difficult to estimate. In interviews with wheelchair users, many will give strong opinions about what they personally think is accessible and their responses vary more than most people

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread marc marc
Le 18.06.19 à 22:07, Markus a écrit : > If you want to use a new tag for special wheelchairs the example has little to do with wheelchairs, a paraplegic, a blind person, a patient could just as easily go for a walk the itinerary seems to describe + the activity of an association or group of

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Markus
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 19:36 Andreas Lattmann, wrote: > >IMO wheelchair=yes means accessible for most basic wheelchairs. > > For the paths that are accessible with normal wheelchairs, I have no > doubt: I would tag them with wheelchair = yes, it is on the paths that need > special wheelchairs

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Andreas Lattmann
>IMO wheelchair=yes means accessible for most basic wheelchairs. For the paths that are accessible with normal wheelchairs, I have no doubt: I would tag them with wheelchair = yes, it is on the paths that need special wheelchairs (4x4, with the help of people etc.) that I don't know how to tag

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 18 giu 2019, alle ore 16:40, Paul Allen ha > scritto: > > If you add > wheelchair=yes to a hiking trail it is implicit that it is for hiking in a > wheelchair. we could use wheelchair=designated https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/wheelchair#value it

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Markus
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 18:44 Volker Schmidt, wrote: > highway=path >> wheelchair=designated >> > This would only be correct if this path is mainly or exclusively for > wheelchair users. > I presume thet the majority of hiking routes for wheelchair users do not > exclude other users, they are

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Markus
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 18:42 Andreas Lattmann, wrote: > would be included in the relations > > I was thinking about this new tag because often particular wheelchairs are > used, for example: [1] [2] > > So if I insert wheelchair = yes what other tag can I use to make it clear > that special

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Markus
Hi! On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 16:32 Andreas Lattmann, wrote: > I would like to propose a new tag (if it is not already there). The new > tag is wheelchair = hiking because in Italy many associations are creating > mountain trails for disabled people. > It would be nice to be able to map these

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Volker Schmidt
highway=path > wheelchair=designated > This would only be correct if this path is mainly or exclusively for wheelchair users. I presume thet the majority of hiking routes for wheelchair users do not exclude other users, they are likely to be shared with pedestrians, possibly also cyclists. I

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Andreas Lattmann
>Where it would be applied? To paths or to route relations? would be included in the relations I was thinking about this new tag because often particular wheelchairs are used, for example: [1] [2] So if I insert wheelchair = yes what other tag can I use to make it clear that special equipment

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Nick Bolten
I would suggest developing a new tag that means, "this authority has designated this path as accessible by wheelchair users", as that's the information you actually possess and can communicate. A description of on-the-ground infrastructure would also be appropriate, though I suspect there might

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Valor Naram via Tagging
This is a good point and should be the preferred way. For your purpose you should usehighway=pathwheelchair=designated.This tells mappers and other users of OSM data that the highway is a path https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath and designated for wheelchair users

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/06/2019 15:28, Andreas Lattmann wrote: I would like to propose a new tag (if it is not already there). The new tag is wheelchair = hiking because in Italy many associations are creating mountain trails for disabled people. It would be nice to be able to map these paths. Would existing

Re: [Tagging] Designated spots for dogs to wait

2019-06-18 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 6/18/2019 10:14 AM, Paul Allen wrote: Are there any objections to man_made=hitching_point? I think it will be a little used item. You're probably right there.  Not much call for it.  And unlikely to be rendered until we get vector carto, and maybe not even then.  But, analogously

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Peter Elderson
+1 Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 18 jun. 2019 om 16:38 heeft marc marc het > volgende geschreven: > >> Le 18.06.19 à 16:28, Andreas Lattmann a écrit : >> mountain trails for disabled people > > map the mountain trails as usual (way and/or relation) > and add wheelchair=yes on it (or

Re: [Tagging] Designated spots for dogs to wait

2019-06-18 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 01:50, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 18/06/19 08:50, Paul Allen wrote: > > hitching_point=dog|cat|horse|yes if you really feel a need to specify what > can or cannot be hitched > there. > > That was silly of me. It would be better to have

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 15:32, Andreas Lattmann wrote: I don't know if it's the right mailing list. > It is. I would like to propose a new tag (if it is not already there). The new > tag is wheelchair = hiking because in Italy many associations are creating > mountain trails for disabled

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread marc marc
Le 18.06.19 à 16:28, Andreas Lattmann a écrit : > mountain trails for disabled people map the mountain trails as usual (way and/or relation) and add wheelchair=yes on it (or wheelchair=limited if ppl need help to use it) ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Verifiability of geometry

2019-06-18 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 02:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For the 'centre' of place I tend tot go either for the post office or the > railway station. > I have a vague memory, which a brief search with google is unable to confirm, that milestones in Britain gave their distance from

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
18 Jun 2019, 16:28 by andrea.lattm...@ga-2.it: > Hi everyone, > I don't know if it's the right mailing list. > It is the correct one for discussing tagging, especially new tags! Welcome! > I would like to propose a new tag (if it is not already there). The new tag > is wheelchair = hiking

[Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-18 Thread Andreas Lattmann
Hi everyone, I don't know if it's the right mailing list. I would like to propose a new tag (if it is not already there). The new tag is wheelchair = hiking because in Italy many associations are creating mountain trails for disabled people. It would be nice to be able to map these paths.

Re: [Tagging] Designated spots for dogs to wait

2019-06-18 Thread John Willis via Tagging
Javbw > On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You have not seen large dogs then. A relatives dog would pull my arm off > running up hill .. and it was not large... I'll have to snap a pic of one of the common pet anchor points I have seen (one company makes all

Re: [Tagging] Designated spots for dogs to wait

2019-06-18 Thread Warin
On 18/06/19 20:16, John Willis via Tagging wrote: On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Are there any objections to man_made=hitching_point? I think it will be a little used item. If you search for "dog leash hitching post" you find a lot of different kinds of

Re: [Tagging] Designated spots for dogs to wait

2019-06-18 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Are there any objections to man_made=hitching_point? I think it will be a > little used item. If you search for "dog leash hitching post" you find a lot of different kinds of things - and all of them look like something a