Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 14:28, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > Assuming that the boundary of that area is reasonably permanent, my first > reaction is that this could be described by military=danger_area. However, > that tag requires landuse=military as the primary tag, which probably isn't >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
Assuming that the boundary of that area is reasonably permanent, my first reaction is that this could be described by military=danger_area. However, that tag requires landuse=military as the primary tag, which probably isn't correct here. On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 10:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Not wanting to create a bunfight, but just reading the news, & wondering if this sort of thing should be tagged as a hazardous area? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-27/ethiopia-to-launch-final-phase-of-offensive-in-tigray-region/12926606 Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards (mine shaft)

2020-11-26 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 21:56, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: I'm not sure if all mine shafts are hazardous or only some of them, but in > any case, > If the mineshaft is capped in some way, such as a grill, and the cap cannot be removed without special tools, it's probably safe. If the mineshaft

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 06:41, ael via Tagging wrote: > > There are a surprising number of abandoned open mineshafts in the far > West of England which are a hazard, if not an extreme hazard. But if it's already (presumably) tagged with =mineshaft (+ =abandoned?), does it also need to be tagged

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Sorry, just read further through the e-mail list & saw that this has already been covered Thanks Graeme On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 08:40, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > But if it's already (presumably) tagged with =mineshaft (+ =abandoned?), > does it also need to be tagged as a hazard? > >

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-26 Thread Phake Nick
I think it depends on where yoj exactly are at, in Hong Kong the government established a few dozens indoor testing spots, tested a million people and a half, and then shutting down the facility knowing its positive rate isn't high. 在 2020年11月27日週五 01:25,Brian M. Sperlongano 寫道: > This [1]

Re: [Tagging] Elevated housing estate

2020-11-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks everybody for your comments, but, to me, none of them really seem to cover the situation, although stilts=yes seems to come closest, although it also sounds rather strange! Going back to my OP, I notice that I mentioned tagging the area as level=1, thinking about it, maybe that should be

Re: [Tagging] Elevated housing estate

2020-11-26 Thread LeTopographeFou
The issue with building=stilt_house is that two things are mixed in one key. I would prefer stilts=yes (2945 occurences) + building=* or place=* or highway=* or even landuse=* for a full redidential area. LeTopographeFou Le 25/11/2020 à 09:59, Alan Mackie a écrit : This probably isn't too far

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards (rock slide etc)

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
It looks like the vast majority of the uses of hazard=erosion is in Bolivia, where it appears (from overhead imagery) to be used to tag locations where these dirt roads are near or intersected by intermittent streams which tend to wash the road out. Often they are combined with ford=yes when the

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Vote Result - Special Economic Zone

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
The result of voting on the proposal "Special Economic Zone" is: 25 in favor 2 opposed 0 abstentions The two votes in opposition expressed a preference for the use of protect_class=23 for tagging these areas. The community consensus is to approve boundary=special_economic_zone and deprecate

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-26 Thread Peter Elderson
Mass testing without the strict isolation doesn't work, no matter how important the sport or the person. Strict isolation (not 'bubbles') without mass testing will work. Anyway, It's almost done, then all temp structures and facilities will disappear in favour of soon forgotten "quick response"

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards (mine shaft)

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:41 PM ael via Tagging wrote: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:11:25AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > I am not opposed to including unsigned hazards > > There are a surprising number of abandoned open mineshafts in the far > West of England which are a hazard, if not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread ael via Tagging
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:11:25AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > I am not opposed to including unsigned hazards There are a surprising number of abandoned open mineshafts in the far West of England which are a hazard, if not an extreme hazard. Not all of these are signed or fenced. You

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 26. Nov. 2020 um 18:35 Uhr schrieb Peter Elderson < pelder...@gmail.com>: > Well, mass testing did not stop the virus anywhere, it just costs a lot, > drives people to despair and boosts the numbers. > this is off topic here, but apparently the Chinese have succeeded in stopping the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards (rock slide etc)

2020-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 26. Nov. 2020 um 17:48 Uhr schrieb Brian M. Sperlongano < zelonew...@gmail.com>: > This is good feedback, and I would potentially toss another into the mix: > hazard=erosion which has about 300 tags. Do we think these four tags > (rock_slide, falling_rocks, landslide, erosion) represent

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards (animals)

2020-11-26 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 16:40, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 2:25 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> >>- Why hazard:animal and hazard:species is needed instead of animal >>and species? >> >> I initially had it as just

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
This [1] testing site in my state opened back in July (five months ago) and is dedicated to COVID testing only. These sites[2] opened in May (seven months ago) and are still going strong. They are co-located with a pharmacy (usually in the parking lot). While they may be "temporary" as in "when

[Tagging] Feature Proposal Rejected - RFC - Admission

2020-11-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
Results: 1 approved, 6 opposed, 3 abstained. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Admission No one was opposed to the core idea of the Admission proposal, just technicalities. So we should go over them and later try again: 1. access=admisson This was the biggest problem, five

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-26 Thread Peter Elderson
Well, mass testing did not stop the virus anywhere, it just costs a lot, drives people to despair and boosts the numbers. Anyway, as soon as vaccination becomes common practice, COVID-19 is just another virus disease you can get vaccinated against in a regular way, same as others. All the special

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards (rock slide etc)

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
> > >- The use of hazard = >rock_slide > > >is more popular than several alternatives, >- which are essentially describing the same thing: a hazard

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards (animals)

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 2:25 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >- Why hazard:animal and hazard:species is needed instead of animal and >species? > > I initially had it as just animal and species as you suggest. However, for hazards along a stretch of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
I knew when I started this that it would be impossible to address every single possible hazard that may exist in the world. I tried to curate a list of the most popular hazards that people were actually actually tagging with the 28,000 existing usages of the hazard key, and that I felt I was able

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
I am not opposed to including unsigned hazards, if that's the consensus. I was trying to address anticipated concerns about tagging unverifiable things. For example, someone in a western country tagging a curve hazard on every instance of a bend in the road and not just the signed parts. On

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-26 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 02:35, stevea wrote: > I'm in California, where it's almost cliché we love our cars and car > culture, but it is true that not only here but in many USA states, we have > "drive-thru" COVID-19 testing centers. In the UK we don't have much of a drive-thru anything except

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Yves via Tagging
And hazards for niche practices (climbing, whitewater sports, ski touring,...) that are actually mapped in OSM are not generally signposted or 'official'. Maybe we can't expect this proposal to cover them, but you can't prevent users to use the tag hazard to map them. Yves Le 26 novembre 2020

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 26. Nov. 2020 um 08:25 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > >- It is not explicitly mentioned, but it would be a good idea to have >explicit mention >- is it OK to tag hazard that >- >- - exists >- - is unsigned >- -