On 10/22/2010 08:08 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Peter Budnypet...@gatech.edu wrote:
It looks like Richmond, Indiana and Wayne Township are an example.
Richmond is not part of any county. Like all Virginia municipalities
incorporated as cities, it is an independent
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
So if we
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg
On 10/21/2010 06:18 PM, Ant The Limey wrote:
Couple of thoughts
B) i don't feel that any particular tag should necessarily have a
global level of consistency. As a geographer, i instinctively grasp
that location itself is context added to any fact - as one of the
five fundamental questions of
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
What would be an example of a township that would be at admin_level=7?
I'm not saying you're wrong. I just couldn't come up with an example.
The townships that I've seen which overlap with
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/21/2010 07:12 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauerha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
The point of admin_level is *not* primarily to record which governments
are
above another. It’s to indicate
] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?
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On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
What would be an example of a township that would be at admin_level=7?
I'm
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:17 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Peter Budny was talking about Richmond, Indiana, not Richmond, Virginia.
Wow, that was dumb of me. I knew he was talking about Indiana! Thanks...
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On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
What would be an example of a township that would be at admin_level=7?
I'm not saying you're wrong. I just couldn't come up
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
Since when is Indiana the same as Virginia?
Isn't that the whole point of admin_levels?
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This discussion, although amazingly lengthy is seeming useful. Someone
already explained that much of New England is different from most of the
United States in terms of not having unicorporated areas, and it might
help to explain details.
In Massachusetts, we have counties. Counties don't do
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote:
Only in those 11 states, right?
I'm surprised admin level isn't already handled defined on a state by
state level.
Why treat it
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
Read the link you provided: In the remaining nine town or township
states (Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Dakota,
Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Wisconsin), there is no
geographic overlapping of these two
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg
NYC) county=6 township=7 city/town=8 then it would make sense
everywhere.
What would be an example of a township that would be at admin_level=7?
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM,
Maine still has unincorporated cartesian townships with names like
Township 7 Range 4.
This is timber country with few permanent settlements.
A few have recieved names, likely by incorporation (idk).
iirc, in Maine the legal difference between town and city is as in
Mass from which it separated,
On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg
NYC) county=6 township=7 city/town=8 then it would make sense
everywhere.
What would be an example of a township that would be at
On 10/21/2010 08:15 AM, Bill Ricker wrote:
Maine still has unincorporated cartesian townships with names like
Township 7 Range 4.
This is timber country with few permanent settlements.
A few have recieved names, likely by incorporation (idk).
From my quick understanding, those would be
Couple of thoughts
A) I agree/support it's not hierarchichal / A contains B but more whether A is
just larger than B, regardless of whether a particular B is fully contained
within, or reports to a particular B
B) i don't feel that any particular tag should necessarily have a global level
of
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg
NYC) county=6 township=7 city/town=8 then it would make sense
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ant The Limey anttheli...@gmail.com wrote:
PS: I will buy beers at SOTM 2011 for anyone who can sing the Jibrovian
national anthem to me :)
That's one more beer for IvanSanchezOrtega.
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Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg
NYC) county=6 township=7
Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com writes:
tagging admin area / populated centers / labels in USA seems to come down to
two main tags:
admin_level and place
Before you over-simplify, let me point out a couple things:
1. Not all of the US is incorporated. In the Northeast, every tiny part
of
My thoughts are mixed in below.
*On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
*
* Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com writes:
tagging admin area / populated centers / labels in USA seems to come down
to* *
two main tags:
admin_level and place
Before you
2010/10/20 Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu:
2. Defining how important a city is (and thus, how big its label on
the map should be) is a tricky thing to do. Population is certainly a
large factor, but how do you define this? The City of Atlanta is the
#33 most populous city in the US, with
Andrew S. J. Sawyer assaw...@gmail.com writes:
My thoughts are mixed in below.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com writes:
tagging admin area / populated centers / labels in USA seems to
come down to two
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/20 Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu:
2. Defining how important a city is (and thus, how big its label on
the map should be) is a tricky thing to do. Population is certainly a
large factor, but how do
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Andrew S. J. Sawyer assaw...@gmail.com writes:
My thoughts are mixed in below.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com writes:
tagging
On 10/20/2010 06:34 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
I suppose we could just tag all place markers with a
city_dominance_score= tag... or we could just add a step in the
rendering pipeline to calculate it automatically from various datasets
and some rules.
I think we should have something in the OSM
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:06 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
another approach from the same page is titled dominance where
dominance expresses the distance to the next higher (in terms of
importance / population) place. The higher (in terms of distance) the
more
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
[ ... ]
I forgot to mention control cities
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_city).
These are cities that are designated for use on highway signs to
indicate which direction you're heading. These should definitely
2010/10/20 Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu:
1) whether this matrix influences what place level the city
gets (or maybe these are all large enough cities, so this point
doesn't matter)
I think that if this dominance scheme (or something like it) were used,
place= would become irrelevant except
Please note that the US TIGER imported city boundaries do use place=*
for the actual type of place it is. Thus the claim that there's a
population-based standard in the US is false.
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Richard Weait rich...@weait.com writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
[ ... ]
I forgot to mention control cities
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_city).
These are cities that are designated for use on highway signs to
indicate which direction
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not points to put on a
map.
I think you're right here, though I probably would indicate the
township
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not points to put on a
map.
I think you're right here, though I
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
understanding is you won’t find a chunk of land that is both
“city|village|etc.” and “township” simultaneously; cities
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
understanding is you won’t find a chunk of
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in
On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote:
Only in those 11 states, right?
I'm surprised admin level isn't already handled defined on a state by
state level.
Why treat it differently depending on the state?
—Alex Mauer “hawke”
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
understanding is you won’t find a chunk of
Not all US states use the same administrative hierarchy.
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On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote:
Only in those 11 states
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
None of this has anything to do with place=*, which discusses
settlements, not administrative divisions.
IOW, a municipality may also be a settlement, but then, it may not be.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer
On 10/20/2010 03:21 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Peter Budnypet...@gatech.edu wrote:
So that would give us
County - admin_level=6
Township (if they exist) - admin_level=7
City/municipality/town/village boundary - admin_level=8
New Jersey and Pennsylvania townships
On 10/20/2010 03:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
admin_level=7 it is.
Only in those states, of course. In Pennsylvania and New Jersey (and
apparently the Dakotas?) it should remain admin_level=8.
Why the Dakotas?
—Alex Mauer “hawke”
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: School districts can comprise of one single
municipality, like the School District of Philadelphia or can comprise
of multiple municipalities.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Pennsylvania)
So, are Pennsylvania school
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
admin_level=7 it is.
Only in those states, of course. In Pennsylvania and New Jersey (and
apparently the Dakotas?) it should remain admin_level=8.
Why the Dakotas?
Read
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: School districts can comprise of one single
municipality, like the School District of
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: School districts can comprise of one single
municipality, like the School District of Philadelphia or can comprise
of multiple municipalities.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: School districts can comprise of
On 10/20/2010 04:12 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthonyo...@inbox.org wrote:
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: School districts can comprise of one single
:Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?
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Date :Wed Oct 20 15:38:42 America/Chicago 2010
On 10/20/2010 03:24 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Not all US states use the same administrative hierarchy.
Yeah, but for example we use the same admin_level
On 10/20/2010 04:07 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
Only in those states, of course. In Pennsylvania and New Jersey (and
apparently the Dakotas?) it should remain admin_level=8.
FYI, it's the same with Minnesota: cities and townships are legally
different forms of municipalities (one incorporated,
Not that it matters greatly for this discussion, but in Minnesota
municipalities do include cities and townships. Ex:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?year=2010id=462.352 (subd. 2) or
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=200.02 (subd. 9). Definitions
aren't the same in every state...
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