Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/12 Tobias Knerr : > Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> I am not sure whether this was initially only for parkings "on >> surface" (I had thought it would have been for all kind of parkings, >> so also underground and multistorey) > > The "surface" default was part of the proposal that introduced

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I am not sure whether this was initially only for parkings "on > surface" (I had thought it would have been for all kind of parkings, > so also underground and multistorey) The "surface" default was part of the proposal that introduced the surface/underground/multi-sto

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 01/12/12 13:26, Pieren wrote: Sure. But I fear about this trend asking more and more attributes in editors like P2 and JOSM. You and me know that all is optionnal but in the other way, editors are suggesting the opposite. And more you ask to newcomers and less your newcomers will contribu

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > But again: that's not a > good reason to encourage mappers to omit information they can easily > provide. > Sure. But I fear about this trend asking more and more attributes in editors like P2 and JOSM. You and me know that all is opt

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/12 Pieren : > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> actually this is a recent wiki fiddling attempt. The default for >> missing information is: missing information. > > Come on, Martin. We are both from enough time on this project to know > that original "parking"

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
access=private is a modifying tag - if it is used in conjuction with an amenity=parking area then it means that the parking is private (and nothing else). I guess you could use something more specific like parking=private, but there are 1000s of uses of access=private in this context, so it's unlik

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > actually this is a recent wiki fiddling attempt. The default for > missing information is: missing information. Come on, Martin. We are both from enough time on this project to know that original "parking" proposal was intended for p

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 23:51, Simone Saviolo wrote: > 2012/1/11 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2012/1/11 Erik Johansson : > >> I will gladly change my amenity=parking to what ever you decide. Does > >> access=private work? The parking lots aren't private it's just that > >> you can't park there. > > >

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Richard Mann
I'd have called it amenity=parking+access=private and then added a way through the area for pedestrians (tagging individual parking aisles, probably, plus any footway links to connect it up) On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Simone Saviolo wrote: > 2012/1/11 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2012/1/11 Er

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/11 Martin Koppenhoefer : > 2012/1/11 Erik Johansson : >> I will gladly change my amenity=parking to what ever you decide. Does >> access=private work? The parking lots aren't private it's just that >> you can't park there. > > > access=private doesn't say that something is private, it means

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 21:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> it says "A default amenity=parking means a free public parking lot on >> surface." So it's as coherent as a wiki should be.. :-) And makes me >> think that there will be lots of bad data.. > > actually this is a recent wiki fiddling atte

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/11 Erik Johansson : > On the first line of amenity=parking: it says "A parking lot is an > area reserved for parking cars, trucks, motorcycles etc." Which is a > broad and in my opinion good way to describe something: include > everything by default. (See problems with natural=tree). +1

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 19:58, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I think that a space that you rent as an open-air garage on a monthly basis, > cannot be considered an amenity "car parking". If you put these on the map > you are really creating confusion for the map users (= car drivers). > I would not map

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Volker Schmidt
I think that a space that you rent as an open-air garage on a monthly basis, cannot be considered an amenity "car parking". If you put these on the map you are really creating confusion for the map users (= car drivers). I would not map these facilities as car parking ( ... and don't have any bette

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2012/1/11 Erik Johansson : >> I tag all parking spaces as amenity=parking, even though you have to >> rent a place by the month. I'm guessing this is wrong? But this is how >> most people do it. > > > If the parking is not generally ac

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread sabas88
2012/1/11 Erik Johansson > I tag all parking spaces as amenity=parking, even though you have to > rent a place by the month. I'm guessing this is wrong? But this is how > most people do it. I'd like a subkey for the landuse=road :P ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/11 Erik Johansson : > I tag all parking spaces as amenity=parking, even though you have to > rent a place by the month. I'm guessing this is wrong? But this is how > most people do it. If the parking is not generally accessible, it is nice to add additional tags to it. access=private could

[Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
I tag all parking spaces as amenity=parking, even though you have to rent a place by the month. I'm guessing this is wrong? But this is how most people do it. -- /emj ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/lis