Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread Yves
I'm not a natural speaker, head like in where the aerialway is heading. I propose the second scheme because of the duplicate meaning with ele in the definition, and because the aim of an aerialway could be lower than mid. Yves Le 14 août 2020 17:32:08 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I strongly prefer up/top over head. At least for me (not representative, not a native speaker), head = up is not clear. 14 Aug 2020, 17:05 by em...@daniel-korn.de: > Am 14.08.2020 um 16:37 schrieb yvecai: > > >> >> I would propose, if you want to use altitude as a definition: >> >> >>>

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread Colin Smale
We really should avoid words like "usually. " If there exceptions to the elevation critérium, or if other factors are significant in working out the correct value, then this also needs documenting... On 14 August 2020 17:05:37 CEST, dktue wrote: >Am 14.08.2020 um 16:37 schrieb yvecai: >> >>

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 14.08.2020 um 16:37 schrieb yvecai: I would propose, if you want to use altitude as a definition: bottom: the end station with the lower altitude up: the end station with the higher altitude mid: any station, not being a base or a head station, irrespective of the altitude

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread yvecai
I would propose, if you want to use altitude as a definition: bottom: the end station with the lower altitude up: the end station with the higher altitude mid: any station, not being a base or a head station, irrespective of the altitude Or, alternatively one that does not compete

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 14.08.2020 um 14:51 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-14 13:55, dktue wrote: Am 14.08.2020 um 13:34 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-14 13:14, dktue wrote: Am 14.08.2020 um 13:11 schrieb Yves: Base / mid / head? I'm definitely open for that! :-) OK, two people agree

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-08-14 13:55, dktue wrote: > Am 14.08.2020 um 13:34 schrieb Colin Smale: > > On 2020-08-14 13:14, dktue wrote: > Am 14.08.2020 um 13:11 schrieb Yves: Base / mid / head? I'm definitely open > for that! :-) OK, two people agree on the strings to use, but what are the semantics? What

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 14.08.2020 um 13:34 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-14 13:14, dktue wrote: Am 14.08.2020 um 13:11 schrieb Yves: Base / mid / head? I'm definitely open for that! :-) OK, two people agree on the strings to use, but what are the semantics? What sentence would go in the wiki to describe

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-08-14 13:14, dktue wrote: > Am 14.08.2020 um 13:11 schrieb Yves: > >> Base / mid / head? > I'm definitely open for that! :-) OK, two people agree on the strings to use, but what are the semantics? What sentence would go in the wiki to describe a) when to use the value and b) what the

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 14.08.2020 um 13:11 schrieb Yves: Base / mid / head? I'm definitely open for that! :-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread Yves
Base / mid / head? Le 14 août 2020 10:59:11 GMT+02:00, dktue a écrit : > >Am 14.08.2020 um 10:53 schrieb yvecai: >> On 14.08.20 10:40, dktue wrote: I would define it as: lower_station: station that has the lowest elevation (exact elevation is not necessary to know, it's

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
14 Aug 2020, 10:53 by y...@mailbox.org: > On 14.08.20 10:40, dktue wrote: > >>> I would define it as: >>> >>> lower_station: station that has the lowest elevation (exact elevation is >>> not necessary to know, it's obvious) >>> upper_station: station that has the highest elevation >>>

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 14.08.2020 um 10:53 schrieb yvecai: On 14.08.20 10:40, dktue wrote: I would define it as: lower_station: station that has the lowest elevation (exact elevation is not necessary to know, it's obvious) upper_station: station that has the highest elevation mid_station: any other station I

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread yvecai
On 14.08.20 10:40, dktue wrote: I would define it as: lower_station: station that has the lowest elevation (exact elevation is not necessary to know, it's obvious) upper_station: station that has the highest elevation mid_station: any other station I want to add: At least in Germany,

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 14.08.2020 um 10:35 schrieb dktue: Am 14.08.2020 um 10:28 schrieb yvecai: On 14.08.20 10:00, dktue wrote: So why oppose to the suggested tagging of station=lower_station/mid_station/upper_station? What harm would this cause? There is concerns expressed by the tag value lower/upper

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 14.08.2020 um 10:28 schrieb yvecai: On 14.08.20 10:00, dktue wrote: So why oppose to the suggested tagging of station=lower_station/mid_station/upper_station? What harm would this cause? There is concerns expressed by the tag value lower/upper that imply the elevation difference, do

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread yvecai
On 14.08.20 10:00, dktue wrote: So why oppose to the suggested tagging of station=lower_station/mid_station/upper_station? What harm would this cause? There is concerns expressed by the tag value lower/upper that imply the elevation difference, do you want to tag this difference or

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 13.08.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-13 18:35, Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol wrote: Hi, in my opinion (i think dktue is right there) it should be easy for a user to distinguish or extract (overpass query) the upper, mid and lower stations. That´s not possible at the

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-14 Thread dktue
Am 13.08.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-13 18:35, Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol wrote: Hi, in my opinion (i think dktue is right there) it should be easy for a user to distinguish or extract (overpass query) the upper, mid and lower stations. That´s not possible at the

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-13 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-08-13 19:41, Yves wrote: > If top, middle, bottom have a meaning for the OP, I'm not sure it's really > general, counter-examples have been given. It's not the OP's private project, there is a reason why this is being debated in public. > To avoid confusion with elevation, what would

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-13 Thread Yves
If top, middle, bottom have a meaning for the OP, I'm not sure it's really general, counter-examples have been given. To avoid confusion with elevation, what would be another way to tag them? Motor position have been given, but it is not really relevant for the common user. For routing

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-13 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-08-13 18:35, Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol wrote: > Hi, > > in my opinion (i think dktue is right there) it should be easy for a user to > distinguish or extract (overpass query) the upper, mid and lower stations. > That´s not possible at the moment in OSM. Elevation (ele tag) may be

[Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

2020-08-13 Thread Werner . Haag
Hi,in my opinion (i think dktue is right there) it should be easy for a user to distinguish or extract (overpass query) the upper, mid and lower stations.That´s not possible at the moment in OSM. Elevation (ele tag) may be useful, but does not indicate whether a station is the lower or upper