Am 13.08.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Colin Smale:

On 2020-08-13 18:35, Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol wrote:

Hi,
in my opinion (i think dktue is right there) it should be easy for a user to distinguish or extract (overpass query) the upper, mid and lower stations. That´s not possible at the moment in OSM. Elevation (ele tag) may be useful, but does not indicate whether a station is the lower or upper one. On the other hand, a tagging with upper_station or lower_station is clear and self-explanatory.
It would also be a denormalisation of the data. In SQL terms you would use a subquery like "WHERE ele = MIN(SELECT ele FROM stations WHERE...)" although I suspect the usual use case will be looking for the whole line, so a simple "ORDER BY ele" would give you all you need to know - bottom station is first row, top station is last row, rows 2..n-1 are mid stations. This would avoid any possibility of conflicting information, e.g. multiple stations tagged as top, or the station with the lowest elevation being tagged as top station. All this is based on the assumption that the definition of the top station is the one with the highest altitude.... If any other factors are in play that could mean that this definition does not always hold true, then I am keen to hear.... It's best to check assumptions, even (especially?) if they do appear obvious.

Your assumption is true. The upper_station is the one with the highest altitue whereas the exact altitude is not always known by mappers.

Just to put it in perspective as a mapper from Tyrol joined the discussion: In Tyrol alone (less than 10% of Austria's population) OSM shows more than 1000 (!) aerialways [1] and for probably each of them it would be pretty obvious to tag lower_station and upper_station. I think aerialways that go horizontal are an absolute niche. So why oppose to the suggested tagging of station=lower_station/mid_station/upper_station? What harm would this cause?

[1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/X2M
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