Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-26 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:53 PM, A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: maybe add the key informal=yes to the path? I do this for spontaneous ways and it is also documented in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:informal And the other suggestions, many thanks, sorry for

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/23 A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com A non-way is not the best word to describe my idea and I also do not feel comfortable with it. It's sort of a secret [winding] little passage that one must follow on demand. So, more than informal=yes (which I don't understand well), it

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-26 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2013-02-26 15:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2013/2/23 A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com A non-way is not the best word to describe my idea and I also do not feel comfortable with it. It's sort of a secret [winding] little passage that one must follow on demand. So, more than

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-26 Thread Ronnie Soak
2013/2/26 A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com The specification I'm trying to suggest is exactly that. There is a gap in an OSM route and the sole idea is to bridge it. We must indicate go from here to there in an unspecified way. It is just to - make sure that those who follow the

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread ael
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 09:37:13AM +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:29 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Footpath, not footpad. A footpad is a type of robber. If I saw a path marked as highway=footpad, it would suggest that the path is through a

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/22 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:29 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Footpath, not footpad. A footpad is a type of robber. If I saw a path marked as highway=footpad, it would suggest that the path is through a high-crime area, and you

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 09:37:13AM +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:29 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Footpath, not footpad. A footpad is a type of robber. If I saw a path marked as highway=footpad, it would

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/23/13 8:34 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: This UK meaning of footpad is the only one that I, as an American, was familiar with. I had come across it in older books. same here. it's not commonly used in the US today, but shows up in the literature, so it's not entirely unfamiliar. richard

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maybe if it's walking through grass, you could only put surface=grass on the way, because that's all there is, grass (or gravel or sand, whatever). You could put that grass in a hiking route. That means there are no cliffs, water, rocks or something else on the way, only grass you have to walk

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2013-02-22 12:10, Janko Mihelić wrote : I'm not entirely sure I understood your question, but you shouldn't map non-ways. Routers could be developed that route through non-ways, if there is no cliff or something else in the way. A router could route along the contour lines, to make the hike

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread Jo
It seems that you would like a specific role, which you can add to 2 members of a route relation (I'd add it to the two ways around your imaginary gap). If you do it that way, you don't need a non-existing member. And you don't need to add nodes to a relation which consists of ways. This doesn't

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 23.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Jo: It seems that you would like a specific role, which you can add to 2 members of a route relation (I'd add it to the two ways around your imaginary gap). If you do it that way, you don't need a non-existing member. And you don't need to add nodes to a relation

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread Jo
2013/2/23 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de Am 23.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Jo: It seems that you would like a specific role, which you can add to 2 members of a route relation (I'd add it to the two ways around your imaginary gap). If you do it that way, you don't need a non-existing

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2013-02-23 20:02, Jo wrote : It seems that you would like a specific role, which you can add to 2 members of a route relation (I'd add it to the two ways around your imaginary gap). If you do it that way, you don't need a non-existing member. And

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
I'm not entirely sure I understood your question, but you shouldn't map non-ways. Routers could be developed that route through non-ways, if there is no cliff or something else in the way. A router could route along the contour lines, to make the hike through forest easier. But if there is no

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/22 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com I'm not entirely sure I understood your question, but you shouldn't map non-ways. Routers could be developed that route through non-ways, if there is no cliff or something else in the way. A router could route along the contour lines, to make the hike

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/2/22 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com I'm not entirely sure I understood your question, but you shouldn't map non-ways. Routers could be developed that route through non-ways, if there is no cliff or

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: I feel dirty every time I do that, they are usually tagged as surface=mud.. :-) Basically I map them if there really is a path there and it seems usefull, even though it's clearly not a designated path. There

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: I feel dirty every time I do that, they are usually tagged as surface=mud.. :-) Basically I map them if there really is a path there and it seems usefull, even though it's

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:29 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Footpath, not footpad. A footpad is a type of robber. If I saw a path marked as highway=footpad, it would suggest that the path is through a high-crime area, and you are likely to be mugged. Hmm, it must be a

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi Jo, On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: pad is Dutch for path. (It also means toad in Dutch, but that is, of course, unrelated) In English I only knew pad as something to jot on. Like a notepad. Maybe you should add those other meanings to Wiktionary.org, Good