Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-16 Thread Lukas Loewe via Tagging
ap traffic-light controlled crossing OR junction anyway. It would be an addition on information, I think.   --Lukas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. April 2020 um 03:48 Uhr Von: "Jarek Piórkowski" An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=cross

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-15 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On 15/04/2020 09:27, John Willis via Tagging wrote: On Apr 15, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Paul Allen wrote: The traffic lights control the junction We have a lot of traffic light controlled crossings in Japan that are just for a crosswalk, while the smaller intersecting road is stop-sign controlled

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-15 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On 15/04/2020 05:33, lukas-...@web.de wrote: Okay, so this is what I think, too and maybe I would clarify this in the wiki then. But I think in some cases it still wouldn't be clear, because what would be about mapping this then:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-15 Thread Lukas-458
: "John Willis via Tagging" An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Cc: "John Willis" Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand     On Apr 15, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote:   The

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-15 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Apr 15, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > > The traffic lights control the junction We have a lot of traffic light controlled crossings in Japan that are just for a crosswalk, while the smaller intersecting road is stop-sign controlled for cars. Only the crosswalk is controlled by

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-15 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 10:36, wrote: > Which was mentioned a few posts before? The traffic lights control the > junction, but people might say that the same one single traffic light is > controlling the pedestrian crossing and the junction... > I would say that it is controlling the crossing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-15 Thread Lukas-458
uot;Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 10:00, wrote: > So in which cases "highway=traffic_signals + crossing=traffic_signals on the same node" should be used?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-14 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 10:00, wrote: > So in which cases "highway=traffic_signals + crossing=traffic_signals on the > same node" should be used? Only for the "crossing only-traffic lights" I > mentioned? Yeah, personally I would agree with that. Only on pedestrian/cycle-crossing-only traffic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-14 Thread Lukas-458
the "crossing only-traffic lights" I mentioned?   --Lukas     Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. April 2020 um 15:43 Uhr Von: "Jarek Piórkowski" An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_dem

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-14 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 06:23, wrote: > > To response on the mentioning: > "Currently the wiki page says "traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand makes > it easy to mark all traffic lights which do only control a crossing", > again I personally find highway=traffic_signals + > crossing=traffic_signals

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-14 Thread Lukas-458
responsible.Maybe we would need another key like "waiting_time" for that then, but I think it often depends on traffic situation and maybe can be changed during the daytime by a controlling center etc.     Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. April 2020 um 12:27 Uhr Von: "Martin Koppe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 13. Apr. 2020 um 14:16 Uhr schrieb : > Hi, > oh sorry you are confused. Maybe it's too much text I think. But your > conclusion is completely correct, yes. > > Did you have a look at the currently used values for traffic_signals?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-14 Thread Lukas-458
ot;Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand What's the difference between   highway=traffic_signals plus button_poperated=yes and highway=traffic_signals plus traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-14 Thread Lukas-458
e: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand What's the difference between   highway=traffic_signals plus button_poperated=yes and highway=traffic_signals plus traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand   ?     On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 02:55, Jarek Piórkowski <ja.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-14 Thread Volker Schmidt
What's the difference between highway=traffic_signals plus button_poperated=yes and highway=traffic_signals plus traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand ? On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 02:55, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 12:56, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 17:43,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-13 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 12:56, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 17:43, wrote: >> The second goal my proposal wants to message is to deprecate tagging >> "crossing=traffic_signals" together with "highway=traffic_signals" on the >> same node. Especially if you're saying this is a full

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-13 Thread Lukas-458
. April 2020 um 20:16 Uhr Von: "Mark Wagner" An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:42:42 +0200 lukas-...@web.de wrote: > The second goal my proposal wants to message is to deprecate taggin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-13 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:42:42 +0200 lukas-...@web.de wrote: > The second goal my proposal wants to message is to deprecate tagging > "crossing=traffic_signals" together with "highway=traffic_signals" on > the same node. Especially if you're saying this is a full crossing > mapped. It breaks the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-13 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 17:43, wrote: > The second goal my proposal wants to message is to deprecate tagging > "crossing=traffic_signals" together with "highway=traffic_signals" on the > same node. Especially if you're saying this is a full crossing mapped. It > breaks the highway=crossing -

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-13 Thread Lukas-458
n JOSM. Or for mapping traffic signals for crossing cyclists. But I think in every case it is better to use two different (nearby) nodes for that.   What do you think about it?   Lukas Gesendet: Montag, 13. April 2020 um 14:14 Uhr Von: lukas-...@web.de An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Bet

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-13 Thread Lukas-458
Hi, oh sorry you are confused. Maybe it's too much text I think. But your conclusion is completely correct, yes.     Gesendet: Montag, 13. April 2020 um 13:47 Uhr Von: "Andrew Davidson" An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Fe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-13 Thread Andrew Davidson
I'm a bit confused by your proposal, but it would seem to me that what you want to do is add crossing_on_demand to the list of values for the key traffic_signals. Is this correct? On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:10 PM wrote: > Hi people, > I made a proposal to reform the tagging of those traffic

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand

2020-04-13 Thread Lukas-458
Hi people, I made a proposal to reform the tagging of those traffic signals, which do only control a crossing. The proposal has two main messages: First that crossing=traffic_signals is every time a strict under-tag of highway=crossing and should not be used on the same node with