Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-21 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Jan 21, 2020, at 12:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > if the sheets are the topmost thing before the air of the atmosphere, surface > would be fine as an FYI, I am only interested in mapping any of these types of things if they are clearly visible all the time and installed

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-20 Thread John Willis via Tagging
I am familiar with all of those materials. I agree that they are all different (landscaping paper, farming plastic, weedblocker, tyvek house moisture barrier). I use all of them at my house. This is something different. Something very very thick (2-3mm!) , made with tar or other marital that

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 15:05, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I agree that earthwork reinforcement may be out of scope here, but the > term "surface" as you read it seems to comprise the first feet of earth, > while I would read it as the surface in contact with air (no thickness, > just a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 20. Jan. 2020 um 15:09 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > If they're sub-surface, a mapper won't see them on a survey or aerial > imagery. The > OP appeared to be talking specifically of surface features for preventing > weeds > and/or erosion control, not reinforcement. Visible, therefore

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I don't find the surface tag compelling for this, because around here, most > of them are below the surface (although not very deep). I would either see > them as erosing control features or maybe ground reenforcement? (in any > case these

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
even more related wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geotextile Cheers Martin PS: just another example of the plurality of articles (and connected wikidata objects) for (partially) "the same things" ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 16. Jan. 2020 um 23:11 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > maybe surface=landscaping_fabric or =landscape_fabric ? > > Wikipedia has stub under the second title > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landscape_fabric > not sure which name is better > here's an article

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 16. Jan. 2020 um 23:11 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > maybe surface=landscaping_fabric or =landscape_fabric ? > I don't find the surface tag compelling for this, because around here, most of them are below the surface (although not very deep). I would either

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
16 Jan 2020, 21:21 by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:57 AM John Willis via Tagging > wrote: > >> So what would be a good surface=* be for it? Tarpaper sounds too close to >> the roofing material, which could cause confusion. >> > > I use one grade of the stuff for weed

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-16 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:57 AM John Willis via Tagging wrote: > So what would be a good surface=* be for it? Tarpaper sounds too close to the > roofing material, which could cause confusion. I use one grade of the stuff for weed control in my vegetable garden, while another underlies the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
16 Jan 2020, 13:55 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > There is a small amount near my home, I’ll snap a picture of it. > That would help! > It is not a “mappable” amount, but should give you an idea of what it is. > See micromapping, some map really tiny things :) > It is somewhere between weed

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-16 Thread John Willis via Tagging
- yea, a lot of the erosion control searching online I have seen is open mesh or open squared checkerboard. - yea, a lot of weed paper is root-blocking /light blocking sheeting, usually .5mm thick or so - the farming plastic is a weed barrier, and also a wind erosion barrier. (The dust can

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-15 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
This sound like a surface=* feature, since it isn't a landuse or natural vegetation type. Plastic sheeting is also used on some types of farmland, for example strawberry fields, for weed prevention. So map the area's function with landuse=railway/industrial/farmland or natural=scree/sand/etc. or

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-15 Thread Warin
On 16/1/20 11:59 am, John Willis via Tagging wrote: here in Japan and other places where unwanted vegetation grows very quickly and/or has heavy rain, heavy tar paper / plastic or metal mesh / or plastic “weedblocking” sheeting is commonly used on embankments, traffic islands, and other

[Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

2020-01-15 Thread John Willis via Tagging
here in Japan and other places where unwanted vegetation grows very quickly and/or has heavy rain, heavy tar paper / plastic or metal mesh / or plastic “weedblocking” sheeting is commonly used on embankments, traffic islands, and other places where people want to stop weeds from growing and to

[Tagging] How to tag landscaping

2010-11-01 Thread Paul Norman
Bring me a shrubbery! While doing some small-scale mapping, I came across an area of landscaping roughly outlined in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Landscaping.png Landscaping typically has small trees, shrubs, flowers, and other decorative plants. Being artificial, the natural=scrub

Re: [Tagging] How to tag landscaping

2010-11-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/1 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com: Bring me a shrubbery! While doing some small-scale mapping, I came across an area of landscaping roughly outlined in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Landscaping.png Landscaping typically has small trees, shrubs, flowers, and other decorative