Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
10 Dec 2018, 00:33 by ethnicfoodisgr...@gmail.com > That is an unrealistic, pie-in-the-sky goal.  As long as mappers are free to > use any tag they like, and OSM is a mishmash of tags, how could anyone rely > on it for anything very important? > In cases where no better data is available. For

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-10 Thread Sergio Manzi
Just a short note to let you know that in the Italian mailing list (talk-it) we recently had the contribution of an ambulance driver who reported how in his zone he uses OSM maps as the best solution availabale. Cheers! Sergio On 2018-12-10 13:06, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 3:29 AM Daniel Koć wrote: > > Good question. And the answer is - don't underestimate how big OSM > ecosystem is and don't try to limit how is it really used, because you > would be surprised... > Indeed. Sometimes OSM is better than the alternatives for a particular

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 10.12.2018 o 00:33, EthnicFood IsGreat pisze: > That is an unrealistic, pie-in-the-sky goal.  As long as mappers are > free to use any tag they like, and OSM is a mishmash of tags, how > could anyone rely on it for anything very important? Good question. And the answer is - don't

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Sergio Manzi
I totally agree on that and, with my limits, I too try doing the same... Cheers! Sergio On 2018-12-10 00:32, Warin wrote: > On 10/12/18 10:17, Sergio Manzi wrote: >> >> I know that there are ones who think that every little detail of the world >> should be tagged, but I'm not of that party,

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
On 10/12/18 10:17, Sergio Manzi wrote: I know that there are ones who think that every little detail of the world should be tagged, but I'm not of that party, and I think that I have the same right to express my opinion as they do, and no offense should be taken by neither of the two

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Sergio Manzi
Sorry, but I don't think so: office=control_centre could be the control center for whatever infrastructure (/unless some more specific tag exists in some specific namespace/). *If* (/and it is a big if of which I'd like to say something later/) we want to tag the places where emergency phone

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
On 10/12/18 07:46, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote: I answer inline to Paul and Markus El dom., 9 dic. 2018 a las 15:12, Paul Allen (>) escribió: On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:06 PM dktue mailto:em...@daniel-korn.de>> wrote: I would like to propose a tag for

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Markus
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 19:56, dktue wrote: > > By the way: We're currently using amenity=fire_station und > emergency=ambulance_station -- which is confusing in my opinion. That's probably because the tag amenity=fire_station is older than emergency=ambulance_station. (You could double-tag fire

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I answer inline to Paul and Markus El dom., 9 dic. 2018 a las 15:12, Paul Allen () escribió: > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:06 PM dktue wrote: > >> >> I would like to propose a tag for emergency control centers (the place >> you reach when you call 112 in Europe). >> > > Why? > > As far as I know,

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread dktue
You're definitely right,     office=control_centre seems to be better suited. Am 09.12.2018 um 20:52 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: Is there some reason to not use office=* like for other offices? Dec 9, 2018, 4:04 PM by em...@daniel-korn.de: Hello, I would like to propose a tag for

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Is there some reason to not use office=* like for other offices? Dec 9, 2018, 4:04 PM by em...@daniel-korn.de: > Hello, > > I would like to propose a tag for emergency control centers (the place you > reach when you call 112 in Europe). > > My suggestion would be "emergency=control_centre". >

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Because building=ambulance_station is for building build as an ambulance station, no matter what is there now. Dec 9, 2018, 4:58 PM by em...@daniel-korn.de: > But why are we using emergency=ambulance_station and not > building=ambulance_station? > >

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 09.12.2018 o 19:54, dktue pisze: > By the way: We're currently using amenity=fire_station und > emergency=ambulance_station -- which is confusing in my opinion. Maybe it would be good to use emergency=police_station scheme (and maybe something else for other police-related objects, like

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread dktue
By the way: We're currently using amenity=fire_station und emergency=ambulance_station -- which is confusing in my opinion. Am 09.12.2018 um 18:12 schrieb Stefano Maffulli: On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:16 AM Paul Allen > wrote: Ambulance stations (like fire

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:16 AM Paul Allen wrote: > Ambulance stations > (like fire stations) are places where people should be aware that high > speed emergency > vehicles may suddenly appear from. > This is a factor but not the main one for using emergency=fire_station or ambulance. These

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Sergio Manzi
Me too!  :-) But, as others have already pointed out, I'm really unsure if this kind of information is relevant/appropriate here... On 2018-12-09 17:29, Markus wrote: > On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 17:22, dktue wrote: >> I've been convinced that the office-key is a suitable place to put the tag. >

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Markus
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 17:22, dktue wrote: > > I've been convinced that the office-key is a suitable place to put the tag. On the other hand, i also understand your logic to put everything emergency-related under the emergency=* key. ;-) ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread dktue
You're definitely right. Good point! I've been convinced that the office-key is a suitable place to put the tag. Am 09.12.2018 um 17:15 schrieb Paul Allen: On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:59 PM dktue > wrote: You're right, indeed. Office would definitely suit better.

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:59 PM dktue wrote: > You're right, indeed. Office would definitely suit better. > > But why are we using emergency=ambulance_station and not > building=ambulance_station? > In my experience, people don't come roaring out of houses at 70MPH with sirens blaring and lights

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Sergio Manzi
Knowing where to find an ambulance (/the nearest one.../) is, I think, of more general interest than knowing where emergency calls are handled. About "/amenity/"... please don't get me started on that: I have a profound hate for the term and in the particular case when you need an ambulance, I

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread dktue
You're right! But amenity=ambulance_station could be used. The point I tried to make was: Why are we using the emergency-key in that case at all. Am 09.12.2018 um 17:01 schrieb Sergio Manzi: Maybe because not all (/probably few.../) ambulance stations occupy an entire building? On

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Sergio Manzi
Maybe because not all (/probably few.../) ambulance stations occupy an entire building? On 2018-12-09 16:58, dktue wrote: > But why are we using emergency=ambulance_station and not > building=ambulance_station? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread dktue
You're right, indeed. Office would definitely suit better. But why are we using emergency=ambulance_station and not building=ambulance_station? If we're doing so to make a grouping about emergency-related facilities, then we should go with an emergency-tag. Am 09.12.2018 um 16:50 schrieb

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Markus
office=public-safety_answering_point would probably fit better than emergency=*. (In an emergency it might not help much to know where the public-safety answering point is located.) Regards Markus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Dec 9, 2018, at 7:11 AM, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:06 PM dktue > wrote: > > I would like to propose a tag for emergency control centers (the place > you reach when you call 112 in Europe). > > Why? > > As far as I know, these are places

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:06 PM dktue wrote: > > I would like to propose a tag for emergency control centers (the place > you reach when you call 112 in Europe). > Why? As far as I know, these are places one contacts via telephone. They may be located far from the locality they serve, even

[Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread dktue
Hello, I would like to propose a tag for emergency control centers (the place you reach when you call 112 in Europe). My suggestion would be "emergency=control_centre". Cheers, dktue ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org