Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Bicycles are prohibited entirely in USA federal Wilderness areas, along with all other machinery. - Joseph E On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 6:23 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 5. Nov 2019, at 18:48, Markus wrote: > > > > I guess that bicycle=no almost always means that

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5. Nov 2019, at 18:48, Markus wrote: > > I guess that bicycle=no almost always means that *driving* a bicycle > isn't allowed. So it seems just logical to use a new tag for places > where pushing (or transporting) bicycles isn't allowed too. Maybe > bicycle=total_ban or

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > do you have an example for a street where pushing the bicycle > is not allowed? Potentially every public footpath in England & Wales. The law says only that "usual accompaniments" are permitted, without specifying them. Cycling organisations try to argue that this inc

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Markus
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 18:25, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > This a well-known (small) problem that from time to time turns up in OSM > discussions. And then the discussion fizzles out again. Which is also a well-known problem ... I guess that bicycle=no almost always means that *driving* a bicycle i

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
This a well-known (small) problem that from time to time turns up in OSM discussions. And then the discussion fizzles out again. On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 18:20, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > 5 Nov 2019, 17:27 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > > sent from a phone > > On 5. Nov 2019, at 14:01, Mate

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5 Nov 2019, 17:27 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 5. Nov 2019, at 14:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> On the page I claim that >> "In some places it is illegal to both ride and push bicycle, >> there is no good tagging scheme to indicate it." >> and I want to check

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Markus
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 17:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > do you have an example for a street where pushing the bicycle is not allowed? > What about pushing a broken bicycle? Carrying a bicycle? Monocycles? > Tricycles? Pushing big boxes? Wearing a red hat? > I would be interested to see a law

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
> do you have an example for a street where pushing the bicycle is not > allowed? What about pushing a broken bicycle? Carrying a bicycle? > Monocycles? Tricycles? Pushing big boxes? Wearing a red hat? > I would be interested to see a law discriminating particularly against > pushing bicycles. > N

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5. Nov 2019, at 14:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On the page I claim that > "In some places it is illegal to both ride and push bicycle, > there is no good tagging scheme to indicate it." > and I want to check is it correct. do you have an example for a street where

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tuesday, 5 November 2019, Dave F via Tagging wrote: > > > On 05/11/2019 13:11, Andy Townsend wrote: > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/65663472 (Meir Tunnel, dry even on a > > wet Wednesday in Stoke*) bans foot and bicycle traffic, so you can > > neither walk nor cycle through it. A

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Dave F via Tagging
On 05/11/2019 13:11, Andy Townsend wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/65663472 (Meir Tunnel, dry even on a wet Wednesday in Stoke*) bans foot and bicycle traffic, so you can neither walk nor cycle through it.  A cycle router would have to flat-out avoid it, whereas it may choose not t

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tuesday, 5 November 2019, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 05/11/2019 13:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I just created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Ddismount > > to document why it is used and why it is anyway duplicate of bicycle=no. > > > > On the page I claim that > > "In som

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/11/2019 13:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I just created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Ddismount to document why it is used and why it is anyway duplicate of bicycle=no. On the page I claim that "In some places it is illegal to both ride and push bicycle, there is no good

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