Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-07 Thread Stephen Hope
Hmm, to me there are three levels. Crazy Clarks is bargain/discount Target, KMart are downmarket DJ's etc are upmarket How should we tag a factory outlet type store that sell's upmarket stuff at lower prices? I can easily find stores that sell every product at a very reduced price, but still

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 18:15, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, to me there are three levels. Isn't the english language wonderful, you ask people from different natively speaking english backgrounds what something means and you end up with almost a different answer each time, although I'm

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 6 May 2010 19:27, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: In the UK, they'd almost certainly be tagged as supermarkets, since our stores tend to have one product area dominant (eg groceries). Department stores are large

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
-- From: John Smith Sender: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org To: OpenStreetMap tagging mailing list ReplyTo: OpenStreetMap tagging mailing list Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US Sent: May 6, 2010 4:43 AM On 6 May 2010 19:27, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a small percentage of their floor space to groceries.  The so-called super WalMarts have a full range of groceries; even so, the grocery section takes up only 20 percent or

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 8:47 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/5/6 John F. Eldredgej...@jfeldredge.com: From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a small percentage of their floor space to groceries. The so-called super WalMarts have a full range of groceries; even

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: most of these stores devote no more than 5 or 10% of their floorspace to food, and are otherwise inexpensive department stores, and i'm certainly having trouble seeing how 10% of their stock overrides the other 90% when it comes to tagging. I

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department stores and maybe others. usable with any shop= where appropriate? i can see that. richard

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
Eldredge To: OpenStreetMap tagging mailing list ReplyTo: m...@koppenhoefer.com Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US Sent: May 6, 2010 7:47 AM 2010/5/6 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a small

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Katie Filbert
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: I see. The type of discout stores we have here (there should be some wallmart as well, but I personally never encountered one) usually are mainly for food and have just occasionally some non-food articles (maybe

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Liz
On Thu, 6 May 2010, Richard Welty wrote: On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department stores and maybe others. usable with any shop= where appropriate? i can

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 4:52 PM, Liz wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010, Richard Welty wrote: On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department stores and maybe others.

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 07:03, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement that one tier of department store (walmart, kmart, target) is discount with respect to another (macys, pennys, nordstrom, etc.) The same thing is true of

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Liz
On Fri, 7 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 7 May 2010 07:03, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement that one tier of department store (walmart, kmart, target) is discount with respect to another (macys, pennys,

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:13 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement that one tier of department store (walmart, kmart, target) is discount with respect to another (macys, pennys, nordstrom, etc.) The same thing

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 8:30 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: I disagree that there's broad agreement here on what stores are discount stores. I've never heard anyone in Australia refer to Kmart or Target as a discount store. I have heard this word used for, say, Crazy Clarks or Dollars and Sense. But I would have

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 10:30, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard anyone in Australia refer to Kmart or Target as a discount store. I have heard this word used for, say, Crazy Clarks or Dollars and Sense. But I would have trouble objectively defining what it is, exactly, that

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2010 11:24, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: they really don't quite seem to go as department_store, but also seem large for the value general. what are people typically using? shop=department_store seems to fit to me: A single large store - often multiple storeys high -

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-05 Thread Katie Filbert
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: by discount store, i mean the largish stores like WalMart, Target, K Mart, etc. they really don't quite seem to go as department_store, but also seem large for the value general. what are people typically using? I

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2010 11:59, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote: Though, many Targets and Super Walmarts have large grocery sections, so they could also get shop=supermarket, and there might be a McDonalds, Pizza Hut or Taco Bell Express, and other things. Thus, we have the issue with how to