[Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi all, the relation type=waterway proposal was written long times ago but never formally approved: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Waterway The relation is widely used as you can see in statistics: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Waterway#Tools It

[Tagging] Converting relation type relatedStreet to assiciatedStreet

2012-02-19 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi there, the relation type page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Types_of_relation lists the relatedStreet relation as an similar type of associatedStreet. Are there any objection to convert and cleanup the relatedStreets into associatedStreet relations? Often there could be merge several

Re: [Tagging] Converting relation type relatedStreet to assiciatedStreet

2012-02-19 Thread David Paleino
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:56:19 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: Hi there, Hello, the relation type page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Types_of_relation lists the relatedStreet relation as an similar type of associatedStreet. Are there any objection to convert and cleanup the

Re: [Tagging] Converting relation type relatedStreet to assiciatedStreet

2012-02-19 Thread Werner Hoch
Am Sonntag, den 19.02.2012, 11:07 +0100 schrieb David Paleino: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:56:19 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: the relation type page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Types_of_relation lists the relatedStreet relation as an similar type of associatedStreet. Are there any

Re: [Tagging] Converting relation type relatedStreet to assiciatedStreet

2012-02-19 Thread David Paleino
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:56:39 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: Am Sonntag, den 19.02.2012, 11:07 +0100 schrieb David Paleino: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:56:19 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: the relation type page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Types_of_relation lists the relatedStreet

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 19. Februar 2012 10:47 schrieb Werner Hoch werner...@gmx.de: Hi all, the relation type=waterway proposal was written long times ago but never formally approved: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Waterway The relation is widely used as you can see in statistics:

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Before we vote, shouldn't we try to clean up the proposal? E.g. there is this sentence: Hint: If the waterway starts as a stream and becomes larger, then use the tag of the largest waterway (e.g. river). Well,

Re: [Tagging] Converting relation type relatedStreet to assiciatedStreet

2012-02-19 Thread David Paleino
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:07:12 +0100, David Paleino wrote: (we should also include type=collection + collection=street and type=route + route=street -- rationale for the latter is that named routes should be route=road) Oh, and I see also type=address... meh :) Seems like we'll need some time

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 19. Februar 2012 12:16 schrieb Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, almost all rivers start small and become bigger ;-), but despite being small, don't they already start as rivers at their spring? No,

Re: [Tagging] Converting relation type relatedStreet to assiciatedStreet

2012-02-19 Thread Werner Hoch
Am Sonntag, den 19.02.2012, 12:12 +0100 schrieb David Paleino: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:56:39 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: Well, one relation type would be perfect. But for now I think we should try to reduce the different types one by one. Then I propose merging relatedStreet directly to

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Werner Hoch
Am Sonntag, den 19.02.2012, 22:16 +1100 schrieb Steve Bennett: The proposal looks pretty sensible to me. I just wish there was a meaningful process we could follow. Probably what we really want to do is deprecate any alternative tagging schemes, and direct people to this one. As soon as the

[Tagging] man_made

2012-02-19 Thread Amanda
hello! new here. don't know if it's the right place to address this issue, sorry if i'm mistaken.. my suggestion is: MAN MADE should be called HUMAN MADE ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 19 Feb 2012, at 14:34, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: waterway=riverbank is an alternative way of mapping a waterway=river, and can coexist with it. +1, they are actually an additional way of tagging the extent. I still remain of the opinion that a river starts at its

Re: [Tagging] man_made

2012-02-19 Thread LM_1
The place is right, but: Why? What good would that change bring? Lukáš Matějka (LM_1) 2012/2/19 Amanda amanda...@gmail.com: hello! new here. don't know if it's the right place to address this issue, sorry if i'm mistaken.. my suggestion is: MAN MADE should be called HUMAN MADE

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Chris Hill
On 19/02/12 11:56, Werner Hoch wrote: Am Sonntag, den 19.02.2012, 22:16 +1100 schrieb Steve Bennett: The proposal looks pretty sensible to me. I just wish there was a meaningful process we could follow. Probably what we really want to do is deprecate any alternative tagging schemes, and direct

Re: [Tagging] man_made

2012-02-19 Thread Martijn van Exel
Amanda, This would be the right place to discuss tagging-related topics like the one you're raising. Let me start by saying that it is not straightforward at all to just change an established convention: not only would we need to change every occurence of this tag in the database, we'd also need

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Josh Doe
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Advertise your ideas and encourage acceptance. Show how well it works any why it is better but don't use a phoney voting process ignored by the vast majority as a mandate for action. Voting is a valuable process.

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Before we vote, shouldn't we try to clean up the proposal? E.g. there is this sentence: Hint: If the waterway starts as a stream and becomes larger, then use the

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-19 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: I do not agree with the whole basis of this thread. There are no such things as approved tags, tagging is open and people are free to use *any* tags they like. ... Advertise your ideas and encourage acceptance. Show how