Re: [Tagging] Suggestions for the correct tagging of Field borders

2014-07-08 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
Simon Wüllhorst wrote: I was a bit confused about the inconsistent usage of landuse and natural tag. Sometimes it’s not clear why there is used the natural or landuse key. Landuse and natural tags have different keys, so that you can have both; they describe different properties. It's just that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-08 Thread Malcolm Herring
Most ports handle many different types of cargoes, so a single value is insufficient. It would be better to tag the individual terminal objects within a port with a type rather than assign a type to the port object. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-08 Thread Andreas Goss
We could use a single polygon per terminal tagged as in the proposal (similar to other landuse types) if we need to go in detail. If needed using also multiple values (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semicolon) If you read the page you will see that it pretty much says: DON'T USE

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, I just made the proposal page for discussion about enhancing natural=peak tag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/peak This is my first attempt to define OSM features. *** BTW - my mail was awaiting for admin approval too long, so I canceled it and now I post it

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-08 15:59 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć dan...@xn--ko-wla.pl: I just made the proposal page for discussion about enhancing natural=peak tag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/peak This is my first attempt to define OSM features. I am not sure this is something we'd want

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread fly
Am 08.07.2014 17:06, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2014-07-08 15:59 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć dan...@xn--ko-wla.pl mailto:dan...@xn--ko-wla.pl: I just made the proposal page for discussion about enhancing natural=peak tag:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread fly
Am 08.07.2014 17:52, schrieb fly: Am 08.07.2014 17:06, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2014-07-08 15:59 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć dan...@xn--ko-wla.pl mailto:dan...@xn--ko-wla.pl: I just made the proposal page for discussion about enhancing natural=peak tag:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 08.07.2014 16:14, SomeoneElse napisał(a): Currently taginfo suggests almost no usage of peak like this http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/peak#values Yes, but that's exactly where the problem is: I think people are simply cheating now. =} They see no other peak tags in wiki, so

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 08 July 2014, fly wrote: Sorry forgot the links: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topographic_prominence [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topographic_isolation http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/key:prominence This can be calculated automatically in principle

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread yvecai
Calculating relief features from a DEM is doable. Naming them is not. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread yvecai
This proposal is not a bad idea: refining an existing tag can't do no harm. However, if rendering is an interesting topic, wiki is full of rendering examples and advices that aren't followed anywhere. Let the renderer render and the cartographer style the map, and trust them to understand

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 08.07.2014 18:50, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): the tag, i.e. I would deliberately choose natural=peak for all kind of peaks and hilltops regardless their (geological) history. If someone took off some stones from a natural peak it would become a man made peak for you and you'd tag it

[Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-08 Thread Jesse Crawford
Apologies if this is the wrong list, I'm new to the community. On the wiki talk page for tracktype [1] there is some discussion from Australians of this property not properly reflecting road usability. Here in desert New Mexico I am working on significantly improving mapping of tracks, and I have

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-08 Thread Marc Gemis
Hello Jesse, welcome to this list. This is indeed the right list to post this type of questions. However, this question has popped up every few months the past year and so far so consensus has been reached. You can always search the tagging archive and you'll find threads such as

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-08 Thread Volker Schmidt
The combination of tracktype, surface and smoothness could fit the bill. However smoothness values are ill-defined and would need more objective classification, but they also refer to things like high-clearance vehicles see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness On 8 July 2014

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 08.07.2014 20:25, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): I agree, man_made=mound isn't a bad idea. Great, feel free to make such amendments! My original proposition is rather wide, since I'm not familiar with many types of terrain objects and don't want to pretend I get the whole picture.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 08.07.2014 20:04, yvecai napisał(a): However, if rendering is an interesting topic, wiki is full of rendering examples and advices that aren't followed anywhere. Let the You don't even realize how sad is this observation for me... What is the role of writing documentation than - and

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-08 Thread David Bannon
Jesse, you are very welcome ! I have campaigned on this topic a couple of times but without really achieving any consensus. Chief problem is some people's fear of 'subjectiveness'. I don't really care exactly how it is done as long as we end up with a clear model advising people whether or not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread John Packer
Daniel, I don't know about standardization of rendering, but I would say the advice on the wiki is followed by OSM mappers much more often than some veterans think. 2014-07-08 20:05 GMT-03:00 Daniel Koć dan...@xn--ko-wla.pl: W dniu 08.07.2014 20:04, yvecai napisał(a): However, if

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

2014-07-08 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 09.07.2014 2:56, John Packer napisał(a): Daniel, I don't know about standardization of rendering, but I would say the advice on the wiki is followed by OSM mappers much more often than some veterans think. Still there are some notable cases when they're not. I wouldn't be interested in