On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 08:50:36AM +1100, Warin wrote:
On 10/03/2015 1:22 AM, ael wrote:
I have resorted to changing railway=abandoned to railway=disused
on several occasions just to get mapnik and friends to render
bridges. Bridges over roads and rivers are major features of relevance
2015-03-09 22:33 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:
It would be adavtagus to tag which side or sides have viewing screens
(in other words, which way the hide faces).
...
There are pictures at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_hide
and:
On 09/03/2015 15:06, ael wrote:
Well, I have only changed the tag on the bridges themselves, and only on
ways for which I did the original (and usually any subsequent) survey
and edits. So I am not corrupting other people's data.
You're are corrupting *the* data. which is *everybody's* data.
2015-03-09 20:41 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
What *use* can a map *reader* make of event hall data?
Personally I would find the existence of a event rental space interesting,
but always defer to the official website for any sense of
capacity/size/hours.
yes, for precise
2015-03-08 23:08 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
The way I search for a relevant tag is to use the wiki, not taginfo. I
suspect many mappers do the same.
I recommend using several sources, my personal priority order is: the wiki,
taginfo, mailing lists.
Using a tag that is not on
On Mar 9, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2015-03-09 6:55 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com:
current draft definition:
A new landuse=* value for civil government buildings complexes where
citizens or services for citizens are managed. This includes
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
The core problem is:
railway=abandoned
Refers to railway service, and does not describe what's on the ground.
What's on the ground could range from a bit of residual lead arsenate
herbicide,
up through a highly visible
It certainly seems to me that palm trees are different enough from what I
usually consider to be a broad-leafed tree to warrant their own leaf_type.
+1
Palms are their own group of trees distinct from broad-leaved trees or
conifers and it makes sense to tag with a different value.
Mike
+1
leaf_type=palm would loose no data, and still be recognizable as a
broadleaved leaf type.
It certainly seems to me that palm trees are different enough from what I
usually consider to be a broad-leafed tree to warrant their own leaf_type.
My 2 cents
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Bryce
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:01 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
There are places where there are an amazing mount of Palm trees, and
confusing them with a broadleaf tree is not great. But is this the main way
the species (or class or whatever) of tree is defined? I thought there was
some
2015-03-08 23:08 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
The way I search for a relevant tag is to use the wiki, not taginfo. I
suspect many mappers do the same.
Using a tag that is not on the wiki will probably mean it is not rendered.
Many mappers don't use the wiki at all.
The wiki has a
In Canada, privately licensed frequencies, not CB are used that have to be
programmed into the scanner. There may or may not be repeaters, but since
you only need to communicate with the traffic nearby it doesn't matter
(there's no point in know that there is a truck moving 20km up the road.
The
Trying to build consensus after at least three failed efforts in past years,
I submit for voting:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station
Please read through the discussion and old proposals if you have questions:
this has been well discussed over the years.
I've been following this discussion, sort of, and think much of the
confusion could be eliminated if you just fall back to landuse=civic, as
suggested. That way we needn't worry about what sort of government branch,
be it executive or judicial, the occupants belong to. Civic is fairly
general,
On Mar 10, 2015, at 12:49 AM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl
wrote:
On 9 March 2015 at 15:26, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote:
To be fair, someone did submit a pull request to resolve exactly this issue
and it was summarily closed:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:11 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) lis...@letuffe.org
wrote:
Le mardi 10 mars 2015 22:14:45, Bryce Nesbitt a écrit :
It isn't really clear to me what you mean by that, but I don't like mixing
different changeset types of mechanical edits. It makes it harder to
understand
On Mar 11, 2015, at 12:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2015-03-10 13:57 GMT+01:00 John Willis jo...@mac.com mailto:jo...@mac.com:
Is the problem that admin is in the title? That I'm proposing tagging
legislative buildings with admin?
yes, that's a point I
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote:
So it this seems to me that this is just a special case of broadleaved.
The difficulty is that palms are widely mapped now, and changing type=palm
to leaf_type=broadleaved
feels like removing information. Yet that's what
There are places where there are an amazing mount of Palm trees, and confusing
them with a broadleaf tree is not great. But is this the main way the species
(or class or whatever) of tree is defined? it thought there was some species
tag for this as well - or is it too difficult when mapping to
On 10/03/2015, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:53 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com
wrote:
I've also seen the opposite mapping issue, where an abandoned railway was
deleted from the map,
when in fact large chunks still exist.
If an osm way represents
On 10/03/2015, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote:
In passing, I am a little bemused that so many people seem to have missed
the hint that I normally regard tagging for the renderer as evil by
using the word Blatant in the title of this thread and that it was
sort of a confession and plea for
2015-03-10 13:57 GMT+01:00 John Willis jo...@mac.com:
Is the problem that admin is in the title? That I'm proposing tagging
legislative buildings with admin?
yes, that's a point I don't like. If its admin, it is not legislation.
Do you have a suggestion for a better civic_?
Jan,
I think it would help if you renamed the page title in the wiki, and edited
the text of the proposal for clarity.
Then resubmit to vote.
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If you think of shop= as business=, a storage business makes perfect
sense. Goods stored include
household goods, vehicles, or bulk goods. The
I'm seeking comments on adding palm to the leaf types
at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leaf_type
A rendering engine can equate palm and broadleaved. Mappers are mapping
palms
very frequently, and having this key name I think would reduce confusion.
Hi Bryce,
How can I rename the wiki? Do I need to create a new one and copy/paste the
contents?
Regards,
Jan
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:32 PM Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
Jan,
I think it would help if you renamed the page title in the wiki, and
edited the text of the proposal
Hi Andreas,
Thanks for your reaction.
Yes it was, but the definition changed in the mean time. It was originally
proposed as Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values
for key parking.
An extensive discussion took place about shop or amenity. My conclusion is
that shop is the
Not sure what problem this is trying to solve. US CB usage doesn't do
offsets for transmit and receive typically (some radios can do it but it's
not within the US spec), and local company specific usage is typically
well-signposted in an obvious location as necessary, with the de facto
running
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:53 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 09/03/2015, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
I know it's a messy dividing line. I see it as important context to
current day mapping.
That's a fair point, but I've seen it pushed beyond reason too
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-03-09 23:06 GMT+01:00 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com:
How does it help mappers see what they have mapped to not show a large
structure which has been mapped and which is physically present?
I didn't say the
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not clear to me which object you are tagging: the highway (osm-way)
or an area or a node where the frequency is mentioned on a sign or ...
The proposal says tagging a way .. so along the road.
missed that, sorry.
On Tue, 2015-03-10 at 11:38 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
..
Using a tag that is not on the wiki will probably mean it is not
rendered.
rendered where? Many if not even most of the tags that are described
in the wiki are actually not rendered on the OSM-Carto style.
While true
On Tue, 2015-03-10 at 09:35 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
The wiki has a very low correlation to the rendering.
Does it ? Are you suggesting that there is substantial usage of tags
that don't appear on the wiki ? If so, I'd suggest we need to fix the
wiki.
Rendering is not the only goal of OSM
“palm” is described explicitly as an example at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leaf_type%3Dbroadleaved
So it this seems to me that this is just a special case of broadleaved.
I have doubts in adding a new value which is just a special case of an
existing value – in the same key. We loose
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