Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-02-28 Thread Dave Swarthout
>If 2 ways share a node, then they must be connected to each other. ie on the same layer. So one can't be above/below the other. A road and a stream crossing on the same layer is a ford. >If you tag the shared node as a tunnel, then you don't know which way goes through the tunnel. Does the

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-02-28 Thread Warin
A culvert goes under the road and only carries the waterway. So it does not 'exist' for the road. As such the culvert would be tagged on the waterway and not on the roadway. The length of the culvert ... well it is at least as wide as the road, if you cannot see it in imagery simply make it a

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-02-28 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2018-02-28 23:21, Vao Matua wrote: François I don't have an example.  I was trying to think of an example where layer would be needed for a stream/road crossing.  A pipe would probably be a better example. Sorry to cause a distraction. My real question is "Why not allow tunnel=culvert

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-28 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:37 PM, François Lacombe wrote: >> If you're coming to Rome, be sure to visit the "park of aqueducts", or >> "park of the 7 aqueducts" ;-) >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/53791283 > > I definetly have to come there :) > NYC city water

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-02-28 Thread Vao Matua
François I don't have an example. I was trying to think of an example where layer would be needed for a stream/road crossing. A pipe would probably be a better example. Sorry to cause a distraction. My real question is "Why not allow tunnel=culvert to be a node?" Emmor 2018-02-28 22:31

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-28 Thread François Lacombe
2018-02-28 13:04 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > If you're coming to Rome, be sure to visit the "park of aqueducts", or > "park of the 7 aqueducts" ;-) > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/53791283 > I definetly have to come there :) NYC city water tunnel #3 in live

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-02-28 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, 2018-02-28 22:31 GMT+01:00 Vao Matua : > In the case where a culvert carries a watercourse over a road then it > would make sense to create a way and layer=1 > Can you provide examples of such a culvert please? IMHO this can't be called a culvert since there is pretty

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-02-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/02/2018 21:31, Vao Matua wrote: What I would like to do is simply merge a node of the road and a node of the stream and give it the tag tunnel=culvert (when I do this JOSM complains) Because that would then be a ford rather than a culvert - you're implying that at a certain point (the

[Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-02-28 Thread Vao Matua
Can someone help me understand two different types of stream and road crossings? A ford can be a node or a way (180,749 nodes & 63,842 ways) However, a culvert can only be a way (691,972 ways)

Re: [Tagging] discrepancy in shop definition and "wholesale" value

2018-02-28 Thread Philip Barnes
Wholesale primarily sells to trade customers, rather than retail. Many will refuse to sell to normal retail customers. Phil (trigpoint) On 28 February 2018 12:30:38 GMT+00:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >2018-02-28 10:48 GMT+01:00 Stefano : > >>

Re: [Tagging] discrepancy in shop definition and "wholesale" value

2018-02-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-02-28 10:48 GMT+01:00 Stefano : > Where did you read that?? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wholesale > the proposal is even clearer: "A wholesale dealer sells large stock of items, usually to other shop owners and resellers." Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] discrepancy in shop definition and "wholesale" value

2018-02-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-02-28 10:48 GMT+01:00 Stefano : > > > 2018-02-28 10:39 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > >> The wiki states that a shop is a place selling retail goods or services. >> The value shop=wholesale, almost 1000 uses, is not fitting into this >>

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-02-28 11:07 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe : > I would rephrase it as "ancient parts of Roman aqueducts > (tunnels/bridges/canals)". > Given problem is we intend to map landmarks with words referring to way > other things. > > Aqueduct should be a term only used on

Re: [Tagging] [OKFILTER] Re: [OKFILTER] Re: "service" tags in general (for shops)

2018-02-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-02-27 14:42 GMT+01:00 Johnparis : > Yes, it's certainly in general use. And its page marks "shop=printing" as > a tagging error. > > I'd remove this. Although not frequent, there are actually shops that do traditional printing (with vintage look etc.) e.g.

Re: [Tagging] [OKFILTER] Re: "service" tags in general (for shops)

2018-02-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-02-27 14:40 GMT+01:00 Fredrik : > So _probably_ those shop=printshop (66 uses), craft=printshop ( 10 uses) > and craft=print_shop (119) should be a shop=copyshop? > > And the printer_ink/toner/cartridge refill-shops is something else > entirely? > yes, around here, there are

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-28 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Martin, 2018-02-28 10:30 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > on a side note: there's the tag > > historic=aqueduct > > for the mentioned ancient Roman aqueducts. > I would rephrase it as "ancient parts of Roman aqueducts (tunnels/bridges/canals)". Given problem is we

Re: [Tagging] "service" tags in general (for shops)

2018-02-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-02-27 13:33 GMT+01:00 Paul Allen : > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> craft is about a profession, so this is about the workplace of someone >> who has learnt printing as a profession >> > > There are two

Re: [Tagging] discrepancy in shop definition and "wholesale" value

2018-02-28 Thread Stefano
2018-02-28 10:39 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > The wiki states that a shop is a place selling retail goods or services. > The value shop=wholesale, almost 1000 uses, is not fitting into this > definition. What shall we do? > Where did you read that?? I see on

[Tagging] discrepancy in shop definition and "wholesale" value

2018-02-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
The wiki states that a shop is a place selling retail goods or services. The value shop=wholesale, almost 1000 uses, is not fitting into this definition. What shall we do? Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-02-28 0:41 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe : > Hi all, > > 2018-02-21 17:25 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kenny : > >> I think you're right. The Aqua Marcia, Aqua Ano Vetus, Aqua Anio >> Novus, and Aqua Claudia were all known as 'aqueducts' and were