Re: [Tagging] Hands Off !, respect my (our) space

2020-08-24 Thread Warin
Off list. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TAGGING LIST. Desist. On 25/8/20 12:50 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote: In ID, on your profile page is, Other nearby users, and the home location, map the point is other locals based on my (our) edits know where we (I) live, but come 

[Tagging] Village swings, for adults, in Eastern Europe and elsewhere?

2020-08-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
There is a newly documented tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dvillage_swing "A village swing (Estonian: külakiik, Finnish: kyläkeinu) is a large swing that is designed to be ridden by multiple adults. They are typically made out of wood and are common on village recreational

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-24 Thread pangoSE
Hi Andrew Harvey skrev: (25 augusti 2020 00:39:55 CEST) >On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 06:27, pangoSE wrote: > >> The POI IMO cannot logically have an adress itself, its a human >symbol for >> designating something of interest within a feature like a building, >park or >> whatever. Adresses are

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-24 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 06:27, pangoSE wrote: > The POI IMO cannot logically have an adress itself, its a human symbol for > designating something of interest within a feature like a building, park or > whatever. Adresses are specialized designations used by the state and > postal service. You

Re: [Tagging] Network-tag needs extension

2020-08-24 Thread Peter Elderson
> > how could you change the definition of an undocumented tag? > Easy. It happens all the time, you just never hear about it. ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >

Re: [Tagging] Network-tag needs extension

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2020, at 22:10, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > But if you want to change the definition how could you change the definition of an undocumented tag? Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-24 Thread pangoSE
Hi Martin Martin Koppenhoefer skrev: (24 augusti 2020 02:16:27 CEST) > > >sent from a phone > >> On 23. Aug 2020, at 23:20, pangoSE wrote: >> >> This collides with one feature one element does it not? > > >it does not. An address is not (necessarily) a feature, it can also be >a property

Re: [Tagging] Network-tag needs extension

2020-08-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Since the tag has already been used 20k times, it is ok to make a page which documents how the tag is currently being used by most mappers. But if you want to change the definition Or other wiki pa a, or recommended use of any tags, then you should use the proposal process. - Joseph Eisenbweg

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread pangoSE
Hi Cj Cj Malone skrev: (23 augusti 2020 23:56:33 CEST) >> Not exactly a very user-friendly system though, especially if you're >> only trying to review requested changes? >> >> & with somewhere between 300k - 600k changes sitting there to look >> at, I don't think the chances are all that high

Re: [Tagging] Network-tag needs extension

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2020, at 20:58, Michael Schmidt via Tagging > wrote: > > So, how to go on from here? My proposal stands. you should follow the proposal process as delineated in the wiki. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process i.e. set up a page in the

Re: [Tagging] Network-tag needs extension

2020-08-24 Thread Michael Schmidt via Tagging
So, how to go on from here? My proposal stands. To substantiate this, I found on taginfo, that network:short is actually in usage: 21k (btw. network:long: 34) I saw, that there are votes, but I'm totally New to the tagging mailing list.. Regards

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

2020-08-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
RE: "Would something like hindrance:target = lying_down or hindrance:target = sitting be more clear?" While this is somewhat less ambiguous, it looks and sounds quite strange in English, and it's quite long. How about "lying_down=obstructed", "sitting=obstructed", "skating=obstructed" or

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Hands Off !, respect my (our) space

2020-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:50 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > In ID, on your profile page is, Other nearby users, and the home location, > map > > the point is other locals based on my (our) edits know where we (I) live, > but come on > > don’t edit the

[Tagging] Hands Off !, respect my (our) space

2020-08-24 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
In ID, on your profile page is, Other nearby users, and the home location, map    the point is other locals based on my (our) edits know where we (I) live, but come on   don’t edit the building i (we) live in !___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM Matthew Woehlke wrote: > Does it really only use the changeset bounding box? That's good as a > first-pass culling test, but I would be somewhat annoyed if my ROI is > "Chicago, IL" and I get notified because someone changed Kansas City, MO > and Detroit, MI in

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 24/08/2020 00.47, Jonathon Rossi wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:22 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:05, Jonathon Rossi wrote: Andrew, how do you specify a polygon, always wanted to do that but I thought OSMCha only supports a bbox? [...] So at the top you should see a

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 10:40 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 15:27, Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> I watch flagged changesets in my state, all changesets in my county and >> all changesets by people I've flagged to watch. I review all edits of new >> mappers to offer them

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

2020-08-24 Thread Vucod via Tagging
Just to clarify an important point. The hostile_architecture key was suggested as a main/category tag to go along with specific keys (lying_hindrance, sitting_hindrance). Used alone, I agree that it would be very vague and could be difficult to verify. I would say to only use it in combination

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2020, at 15:46, Vucod via Tagging > wrote: > > length and width keys on benches were refused because they judged that it was > going too much into details I don’t know who “they” are, but “they” can well stick with this opinion and not map these properties

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

2020-08-24 Thread pangoSE
Hi Vucod via Tagging skrev: (24 augusti 2020 15:43:37 CEST) >Just to clarify an important point. The hostile_architecture key was >suggested as a main/category tag to go along with specific keys >(lying_hindrance, sitting_hindrance). >Used alone, I agree that it would be very vague and could be

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

2020-08-24 Thread Peter Elderson
Wouln't it be more osm to describe visible and verifiable attributes of features, rather than architectural design principles or supposed intentions? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 24 aug. 2020 om 12:11 heeft Florian Lohoff het volgende > geschreven: > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 01:22:38PM -0700,

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

2020-08-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 01:22:38PM -0700, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > The term "hostile architecture" is too vague. As an alternative > "anti-homeless" is also not precise enough. We are getting closer with the > initial suggestion that the feature is to prevent lying down, sleeping or > sitting.

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

2020-08-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 24.08.20 02:46, Paul Allen wrote: > I'm not seriously suggesting we map them this way but speed bumps are > technically hostile architecture. :) As are cattle grids if you're a cow! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

2020-08-24 Thread Alan Mackie
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020, 01:48 Paul Allen, wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 01:27, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> > On 24. Aug 2020, at 01:45, Paul Allen wrote: >> > >> > It's hostile to public urinators. >> >> agreed, but isn’t publicly urinating an offense anyway? > > > In most

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2020, at 04:12, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > You can tag the changeset in OSMCha as Good or Bad, but unfortunately no > middle ground of just "Reviewed". on the other hand, if you can’t tell whether it is good it probably isn’t reviewed either... Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

2020-08-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Aug 24, 2020, 07:22 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > > > > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 10:30, Martin Koppenhoefer <> dieterdre...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> Draw the bridge outline and tag it with man_made=bridge name=* and you’ll >> see what I mean. >> > > Thanks Martin - yep, it works! > >