Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:10 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see an overly compelling reason to change the existing tag, Me either. In my previous post I was actually trying to point out the problems with the landuse tag, rather than advocate it. I think natural=beach

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 April 2010 20:40, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Surely these should be tagged golf_course=bunker, or something. I was hoping for something a little more generic since you can also have beach volley ball areas that are no where near beaches, there is also sand in deserts, and

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/4/11 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 11 April 2010 20:40, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Surely these should be tagged golf_course=bunker, or something. I was hoping for something a little more generic since you can also have beach volley ball areas that are no where

[Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and sometimes also oneway=yes since it seems that the implicit vs. explicit tags debate is not yet done). Does anybody think that this is a good idea that can be

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 01:36, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and sometimes also oneway=yes since it seems that the implicit vs. explicit tags debate is

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 12 April 2010 01:36, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I have indeed tagged a couple of these, using highway=service, service=drive-through, access=private, oneway=yes. highway=service + oneway=yes + access=destination Pieren ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 01:56, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: In my experience the oneway is usually explicit, as there are arrows on the ground. junction=roundabout implies oneway=yes, which is why you don't need to add a oneway tag as well. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 12 April 2010 01:56, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: In my experience the oneway is usually explicit, as there are arrows on the ground. junction=roundabout implies oneway=yes, which is why you don't need to

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 02:33, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Now, if we really want to start a flame war, maybe I should ask whether or not to include bicycle=no :). While your comment is tongue in cheek, most drive throughs have height/width restrictions and usually don't allow towed vehicles to be

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 April 2010 20:40, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Surely these should be tagged golf_course=bunker, or something. I was hoping for something a little more generic Suggestions? As is, you can't use

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 07:50, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Suggestions? As is, you can't use surface because that's only for roads/footpaths (although strangely it's also used for Why does the surface tag have to be limited to roads/footpaths? leisure=pitch's - seems the wiki needs

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 09:09, Steve Doerr steve.do...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Sand is not a necessary element of a beach in any case. In fact, the original meaning of 'beach' was: 'The loose water-worn pebbles of the sea-shore; shingle.' All this means is that sand is assumed, since natural=beach

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 13:49, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Since a couple of people mentioned that service=drive-through is a good value, then I'd go for this value too for consistency. If you want to be consistent, use underscores not hyphens, eg service=drive_through

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 April 2010 07:50, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Suggestions? As is, you can't use surface because that's only for roads/footpaths (although strangely it's also used for Why does the surface tag have

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Stephen Hope
It sounds to me like we're getting back to the old argument about the difference between land-use and land-cover. Unfortunately, tags for both have been lumped together into landuse=*, (as well as some natural, man-made etc) which is why the debate reoccurs so often. Sand is a cover, not a use.

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 14:20, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Good point. I assume you disagree with the use of landuse=grass, then? (which is listed at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landuse) It seems inconsistent with other landuses such as residential, industrial, commercial etc.

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 15:05, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: My personal opinion is that we should separate out the cover tags from landuse into some other tag (doesn't have to be landcover). Not because this is required, or it for easier searching, though they may be side benefits. Simply