Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

Tagging lanes/bays as separate ways seems wrong. It ends in complex junctions where every lane has its own highway=*. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.04570&mlon=19.92147#map=19/50.04570/19.92147 https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/899988/6425360/dfbdf646-bf25-11e4-9aca-20b25eab450f.pn

Re: [Tagging] My goodness!

The directions feature was discussed in a recent OSM blog post Pretty cool. On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:01 AM, André Pirard wrote: > Goodjour Bonday, > > Anyone noticed this >

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Reception Desk

Time to vote .. on a fairly simple thing .. A Reception Desk provides a place where a visitor goes to gain information and or access to the facility. Particularly usefull for in any multibuilding site or large building the location of the reception is usefull information, particularly where t

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

On 28/02/2015 2:53 PM, John Willis wrote: On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: 2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: I read the wiki entry on steps (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sanitary Dump Station / Elsan Point / CDP

On 28/02/2015 2:42 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Ah, the Canal & River trust seems to indicate they have both pump and gravity systems at each site, with different rules and fees for each. One requires a pump on the boat, the other has a pump at the dock.

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

> On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw : >> I read the wiki entry on steps >> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps) and the discussion >> page, >> >> and besides the discussion on which direction means uphill (t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sanitary Dump Station / Elsan Point / CDP

Ah, the Canal & River trust seems to indicate they have both pump and gravity systems at each site, with different rules and fees for each. One requires a pump on the boat, the other has a pump at the dock. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sanitary Dump Station / Elsan Point / CDP

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > 'Eslan' is one brand .. and that those disposal points will not take pump > outs. > > Need a reference? > > Here .. > https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/boating/navigating-the-waterways/services-for-boats/water-points-and-sewage

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sanitary Dump Station / Elsan Point / CDP

On 28/02/2015 10:42 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: The key sanitary_dump_station:type=* values are not enumerated, nor described. Nor has the key been described. Are not the values suction, gravity a method of extraction .. and sh

[Tagging] My goodness!

Goodjour Bonday, Anyone noticed this? New icon next to Search GO Or was I absent minded? Amazed, André. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sanitary Dump Station / Elsan Point / CDP

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > The key sanitary_dump_station:type=* values are not enumerated, nor > described. Nor has the key been described. > Are not the values suction, gravity a method of extraction .. and should be > called such? The types are enu

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sanitary Dump Station / Elsan Point / CDP

On 28/02/2015 9:53 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Comments mentioned have been incorporated into the RFC: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station In particular there's an extension for tagging as an attribute of a place, such as a node for a caravan site. __

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sanitary Dump Station / Elsan Point / CDP

Comments mentioned have been incorporated into the RFC: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station In particular there's an extension for tagging as an attribute of a place, such as a node for a caravan site. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:waste_collection

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm going to move this to voting shortly .. do remember the vote is on > the key ... not values. Thus the vote is on "waste_collection=", not > recycling, 'reverse fees' :-) , etc etc. > -5 I disagree: the vote is on the p

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:waste_collection

On 27/02/2015 11:42 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: In Poland place where one may sold even small amount of metal are typical. 2015-02-27 12:40 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer >: 2015-02-27 0:47 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

Hi! 2015-02-27 16:22 GMT+01:00 fly : > Did sleep one night and now think we should include bays and lanes > within the lanes:-Tagging > > lanes=3 > lanes:forward=2 > lanes:backward=1 > access:lanes:forward=yes|yes|emergency > access:lanes:backward=yes|emergency > To me it just does not feel righ

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

Bus bays like this? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/287489422 On 2015-02-27 18:38, Jo wrote: > I can't help but keep hoping that a way to tag bus bays emerges as a side > product of this discussion. At the moment I'm resorting to drawing the > platform way, the cycleway or the landuse

Re: [Tagging] bridge=movable?

Dave, My rationale for the revisions was roughly as described by Dominik and Tobias. "Movability" is a potentially important property for routers, and there are a lot of different types of movable bridge; some are nearly unique and difficult to classify as to type, or they may simply be hard to cl

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

I can't help but keep hoping that a way to tag bus bays emerges as a side product of this discussion. At the moment I'm resorting to drawing the platform way, the cycleway or the landuse around them, but there are cases where the cycleway goes straight through them, as well and that's not really ma

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 17:33 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt : > These bays are, in a sense, very restricted amenity=parking, I agree on landuse=highway (because they are clearly part of the highway), although that doesn't seem to be a very helpful way of tagging, I'd also include them in area:highway but they are

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 17:44 GMT+01:00 fly : > > I understand that but I have still the problem with my stairs. Did you > take a look at the pictures ? (Sorry, not the best ones). > > Problem is that on one side there is a sloped road and steps get fewer > and fewer until the last two end. Aditionally one the

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 16:36 GMT+01:00 fly : > Well, go for it. tried now, but unfortunately I can't do it based on the current aerial imagery (resolution of available imagery is insufficient). Could so some estimates, but that doesn't seem appropriate and I'm also short on time at the moment. cheers, Ma

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

Am 27.02.2015 um 16:56 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2015-02-27 16:36 GMT+01:00 fly : > >>> I think the easiest way to represent several upper and lower is to model >>> several stairs, one for each upper+lower combo. This can happen for >> example >>> when there are blocks in the middle of the st

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

These bays are, in a sense, very restricted amenity=parking, or a non-lane landuse=highway. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 16:36 GMT+01:00 fly : > > I think the easiest way to represent several upper and lower is to model > > several stairs, one for each upper+lower combo. This can happen for > example > > when there are blocks in the middle of the stairs. > > Do I really need one relation for every step ?

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 16:22 GMT+01:00 fly : > Did sleep one night and now think we should include bays and lanes > within the lanes:-Tagging > IMHO not, these bays are no lanes, hence should not be tagged as lanes. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

Am 27.02.2015 um 16:16 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2015-02-27 14:24 GMT+01:00 fly : > >> Though, I am not sure how to model steps with fading steps to one or >> both sides and several upper or lower > > I am not sure if I understand "fading steps" correctly. Usually I'd say > that the single s

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

Did sleep one night and now think we should include bays and lanes within the lanes:-Tagging lanes=3 lanes:forward=2 lanes:backward=1 access:lanes:forward=yes|yes|emergency access:lanes:backward=yes|emergency All together I am not happy with the description of lanes=* and lanes:*=* anymore. Where

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 14:24 GMT+01:00 fly : > Though, I am not sure how to model steps with fading steps to one or > both sides and several upper or lower > I am not sure if I understand "fading steps" correctly. Usually I'd say that the single step is there as long as there is any kind of riser (in Germa

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:57:28AM +1100, Warin wrote: > > Mapping a maze path would reduce the enjoyment of the maze .. at least for > me. Even if it was a single path. spoiler_warning=yes ? I do not think that is necessary: #1 you don't have to loook at the map before going through the maze #2

Re: [Tagging] bridge=movable?

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:05:27PM +, Dave F. wrote: > Hi > > What's the purpose of bridge=movable? > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge:movable > > It's good that the different types of bridge are tagged & the graphics are > excellent, but I'm unsure why they need to be separat

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

On 2015-02-27 09:07, johnw wrote :  I read the wiki entry on steps (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps) and the discussion page,  and besides the discussion on which direction means uphill (that really needs to be decided), I

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

I had assumed for years that the direction pointing upwards was a commonly agreed on standard, being myself an architect I hadn't expected this to be questionable, but as I got so much flak from people insisting on the other way round, Like me :-p (although not insisting). Indeed, as a poor lon

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

Am 27.02.2015 um 12:09 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw : > >> I read the wiki entry on steps ( >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps >> ) and the >> discussion page, >> >> and besides the disc

Re: [Tagging] bridge=movable?

> If there is a genuine reason, then surely there should be the equivalent: > > bridge=static > bridge:static=* As a matter of fact, tehre is. I checked Tower bridge in London because the structure is well-known and combines several types of bridges. Checking it, I found out what was changed f

Re: [Tagging] bridge=movable?

On 27.02.2015 13:05, Dave F. wrote: > What's the purpose of bridge=movable? > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge:movable > > It's good that the different types of bridge are tagged & the graphics > are excellent, but I'm unsure why they need to be separated to a sub tag. For many ap

Re: [Tagging] bridge=movable?

> If there is a genuine reason, then surely there should be the equivalent: > > bridge=static > bridge:static=* And yes, this is inconsistent and wrong. The polution of the bridge=* namespace for static bridges most likely is there for historic reasons. -nik signature.asc Description: OpenPG

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:waste_collection

In Poland place where one may sold even small amount of metal are typical. 2015-02-27 12:40 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2015-02-27 0:47 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > >> waste_collection=glass >> fee=no >> >> then another node - they would be at different places other why sepa

Re: [Tagging] bridge=movable?

2015-02-27 13:05 GMT+01:00 Dave F. : > Hi > > What's the purpose of bridge=movable? > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge:movable > > It's good that the different types of bridge are tagged & the graphics are > excellent, but I'm unsure why they need to be separated to a sub tag. > > b

Re: [Tagging] bridge=movable?

Hi, > What's the purpose of bridge=movable? > > bridge=movable > bridge:movable=swing > > gives bridge=swing One reason is mentioned in the introduction of the Wiki page: "Note that this key may be used without tagging bridge=movable, to indicate a formerly movable bridge that has been fixed

[Tagging] bridge=movable?

Hi What's the purpose of bridge=movable? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge:movable It's good that the different types of bridge are tagged & the graphics are excellent, but I'm unsure why they need to be separated to a sub tag. bridge=movable bridge:movable=swing gives bridge=sw

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:waste_collection

2015-02-27 0:47 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > waste_collection=glass > fee=no > > then another node - they would be at different places other why separate > them.. > > waste_collection=paper > fee=yes > what about getting money for bringing in ressources for recycling? Might apply o

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-27 1:14 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > So > > leisure=maze > > Possible sub tags? > material= > fee= > operator= > opening_hours= > etc. > +1 for mazes that fall into the leisure category, and obviously -1 for those that clearly don't, like the one at the outer facade of the

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw : > I read the wiki entry on steps ( > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps > ) and the > discussion page, > > and besides the discussion on which direction means uphill (that really > needs to

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

> On Feb 27, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > OSM should follow established standards when available Sounds great! It looks like step direction has been bandied about for a while, so maybe we should put it to a vote. Should we make some kind of proposal page? Javbw

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

On 27/02/2015 8:41 PM, dkise...@osm.me wrote: 27.02.2015, 14:33, "Warin" <61sundow...@gmail.com>: On an architectural drawing, a stairway arrow points upwards. As specified in international standard ISO 6790 .. and copied in British Standards B.S. 1192 ... Australian/New Zealand Standards

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

27.02.2015, 14:33, "Warin" <61sundow...@gmail.com>: >  On an architectural drawing, a stairway arrow points upwards. > >  As specified in international standard ISO 6790 .. and copied in British > Standards B.S. 1192 ... Australian/New Zealand Standards ANZS 1100... and > probably in American St

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

On 27/02/2015 7:39 PM, dkise...@osm.me wrote: Hi johnw. I think highway=steps on way for routing + area:highway=steps on a polygon would be the best. Good .. the Sydney Opera House and Sydney Town Hall all have wide area steps ... they have tagged ways ... I'll have to check areas. There is a

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

Hi johnw. I think highway=steps on way for routing + area:highway=steps on a polygon would be the best. 27.02.2015, 13:23, "johnw" : >  I read the wiki entry on steps > (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps) and the discussion > page, > > and besides the discussion on which d

[Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

I read the wiki entry on steps (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps ) and the discussion page, and besides the discussion on which direction means uphill (that really needs to be decided), I had another big question -