2015-03-04 14:04 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de:
I agree that we should use a subtag instead of adding this kind of
rarely-used information to the surface value. However, I would prefer to
use paving_stones:width (as it is unclear what dimension size refers to).
IMHO width is
square_paving_stones:width? According to wiki this is supposed to be
applied only to square paving stones.
2015-03-04 17:08 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
2015-03-04 14:04 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de:
I agree that we should use a subtag instead of
Maybe:
paving_stone:area=42 cm
But what we really need is:
paving_stone:geometry=
paving_stone:concrete:grain_size=
paving_stone:spectral_reflectance_curves=
paving_stone:manufacturing_date=
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
any idea how to determine this? Please see my examples above of different
tags for different features. Obviously a tag for obelisks will very
unlikely get 1 uses and more, while this might still be very few
2015-03-04 19:13 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
But what we really need is:
paving_stone:geometry=
paving_stone:concrete:grain_size=
paving_stone:spectral_reflectance_curves=
paving_stone:manufacturing_date=
+1
and paving_stone:bevel_variance
cheers,
Martin
But what we really need is:
paving_stone:geometry=
paving_stone:concrete:grain_size=
paving_stone:spectral_reflectance_curves=
paving_stone:manufacturing_date=
+1
Now we're getting somewhere. I think too that we need a way to tag how the
stone was formed, also color
On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Russell Deffner russell.deff...@hotosm.org
wrote:
Maybe someone can confirm this, but I think it might actually be the
difference in language from the Park Service versus Forest Service; i.e. in a
National Forest you find Ranger Stations, in the Parks you
On Mar 4, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Russell Deffner russell.deff...@hotosm.org
wrote:
Maybe someone can confirm this, but I think it might actually be the
difference in language from the Park Service versus Forest Service; i.e. in a
National
Hi,
I've created a draft proposal for a relation of area steps ...
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation/Proposed/Area-steps
It comes from discussions here, on tagging group, for a large area of
steps that referenced a draft proposed relationship by Dieterdresist -
On 5/03/2015 11:03 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
But what we really need is:
paving_stone:geometry=
paving_stone:concrete:grain_size=
paving_stone:spectral_reflectance_curves=
paving_stone:manufacturing_date=
+1
Now we're getting somewhere. I think too that we need a way to tag how
the stone
In the end I think the better tag would have been
amenity=visitor_contact_facility.
Ranger station is commonly mapped in the USA, but has a murky meaning. In
the US national and state parks,
the visitor center and ranger station have overlap, with the more visitor
oriented ranger jobs happening
On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote:
I disagree with the statement A ranger station is generally the first and
primary spot for visitors. that just appeared on the page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dranger_station
On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
The tag would probably have been better expressed as
amenity=park_visitor_center or amenity=park_hq.
couldn’t find those on the wiki.
Visitor’s center is some kind of information tag, and park HQ might be some
form
You're welcome to fix it.
I note that on US park maps the visitor center is often marked with the
ranger station symbol,
and it serves dual purpose.
The tag would probably have been better expressed as
amenity=park_visitor_center or amenity=park_hq.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Dave
On Mar 5, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/03/2015 11:03 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
But what we really need is:
paving_stone:geometry=
paving_stone:concrete:grain_size=
paving_stone:spectral_reflectance_curves=
paving_stone:manufacturing_date=
+1
Now
I disagree with the statement A ranger station is generally the first and
primary spot for visitors. that just appeared on the page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dranger_station
I think the Visitor Center is the first and primary spot for visitors,
especially in the larger
On 5/03/2015 12:32 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
In the end I think the better tag would have been
amenity=visitor_contact_facility.
tourism=visitor_centre ?
But there are already two existing tags that could be used;
tourism=information /May include Tourist information centres and
offices./
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Russell Deffner russell.deff...@hotosm.org
wrote:
Maybe someone can confirm this, but I think it might actually be the
difference in language from the Park Service versus Forest Service; i.e. in
a National Forest you find Ranger Stations, in the Parks you find
It sounds like the original meaning of ranger_station might have described
what I would term a Visitor Center. After reading these responses to my
post, and realizing that there are many parks with visitor centers (even
here in Thailand) that cannot be tagged under the present system, its
obvious
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com
wrote:
It sounds like the original meaning of ranger_station might have described
what I would term a Visitor Center. After reading these responses to my
post, and realizing that there are many parks with visitor centers
On Mar 4, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
tourism=information May include Tourist information centres and offices.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation
information=officeAn office where you can get information about a town
or region.
There is a pretty complete wiki [1] page for US NPS tagging. Looks like we
could use some clarification of Ranger Station, but the visitor center is
mapped as information https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:information=
office https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:information%3Doffice
For areas area:highway should be used, not highway.
2015-03-05 0:54 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
Hi,
I've created a draft proposal for a relation of area steps ...
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation/Proposed/Area-steps
It comes from discussions here, on tagging group,
Maybe someone can confirm this, but I think it might actually be the difference
in language from the Park Service versus Forest Service; i.e. in a National
Forest you find Ranger Stations, in the Parks you find Visitor Centers?
=Russ
From: johnw [mailto:jo...@mac.com]
Sent: Wednesday,
we should be able to map the icon to a generic tag, such as amenity=camp_office
or something, or map the more private “ranger_station” facilities in another
matter, and leave amenity=ranger_station to these more public facing facilities
that people are looking for.
The name “ranger station”
On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote:
On Mar 4, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Russell Deffner russell.deff...@hotosm.org
mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org wrote:
Maybe someone can confirm this, but I think it might
tourism=information *May include Tourist information centres and
offices.* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation
information=office*An office where you can get information about a
town or region.* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:information
Yes, I suppose
I originally proposed landuse=civic, and after feedback, I decided to narrow
the focus of the value, and rewrote a majority of the proposal, with clearer
explanations of purpose, narrower focus, and a section on limitations of use.
Please read the proposal (I think it’s shorter now) and let me
Trams used to be just done as a simple tag on the road way, but they have
slowly been converted to having their own OSM ways (one for each track). I
haven't been paying attention; there might not be many of the original
method left.
I'd probably draw it as four parallel ways, and regard the white
On 4/03/2015 8:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2015-03-04 2:37 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com:
Using the relation, I've added step area to the Sydney Opera House
.. it is a very wide area ..
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4645750
Note that highway=bus_guideway is for A busway that is side guided rails
like, not suitable for other traffic. - so it is not just bus lane.
See for an example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridgeshire_Guided_Busway#mediaviewer/File:Guided_bus_Oakington_to_Longstanton.jpg
2015-03-04 10:41
2015-03-04 9:35 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
After, say, 1 year in any one status, move them to status ... 'Expired',
'Resting', 'Paused ' or ? They could later be 'resuscitated' to some other
status? Unless they are in status 'Voting' then judged on the total votes?
-1
2015-03-04 10:57 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
status = 'de facto' ?
any idea how to determine this? Please see my examples above of different
tags for different features. Obviously a tag for obelisks will very
unlikely get 1 uses and more, while this might still be very few for
2015-03-04 10:46 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
There also seems to be a contradiction in that the standard steps ways
extend beyond the area and up to the center of the road. I'd suggest to
split them and have them end at the first riser (= the way with the role
lower) and tag the
I guess I am suggesting there are quite a lot, technically, under way.
I'd rather see them either make it the 'official' list or be rejected.
After, say, 1 year in any one status, move them to status ...
'Expired', 'Resting', 'Paused ' or ? They could later be 'resuscitated' to
some
2015-03-04 2:37 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
Using the relation, I've added step area to the Sydney Opera House .. it
is a very wide area ..
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4645750
IMHO you don't need the lateral ways in this case, but they won't harm
anyway.
I suggest you
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
-1
Everyone can see from the dates since when a proposal is proposed.
Something like expired, resting or paused does not have any benefit
besides discouraging unexperienced mappers from using it, while it may
On 4/03/2015 5:56 PM, David Bannon wrote:
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 22:06 -0800, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Jan van Bekkum
jan.vanbek...@gmail.com wrote:
I find it quite hard to find existing proposals,
perhaps because there are so many
On 4/03/2015 7:53 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
I guess I am suggesting there are quite a lot, technically, under way.
I'd rather see them either make it the 'official' list or be rejected.
After, say, 1 year in any one status, move them to status ...
'Expired', 'Resting', 'Paused
2015-03-04 9:35 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com:
After, say, 1 year in any one status, move them to status ...
'Expired', 'Resting', 'Paused ' or ?
... pining for the fjords? This tag's not dead, it's
Cheers,
Andy
2015-03-04 3:38 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com:
The whole idea of including a size for paving stones seems overkill to me
+1, although one has to acknowledge that paving_stones:30 is in the top 25
of values for surface: http://taginfo.osm.org/keys/surface#values
Thing is
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com
wrote:
The whole idea of including a size for paving stones seems overkill to me.
Although in places like Germany and Austria where they're running out of
things to map, it might be more attractive.
The really uncanny
As the period for comments has passed and no new comments have come in
during the last week I would like to move the proposal to the voting stage.
The entire proposal can be found here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/power_supply%3Dintermittent,
the voting section is here
I've highlighted that misuse of bus guideways in two cases (Nantes
and Mexico City) in my comparison table at the beginning of this
thread [1]. I'd guess these were mapped for the renderer, so probably
worth a map note for local mappers if nobody disagrees.
[1] http://i.imgur.com/RLdZgDk.png
On
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Éric Gillet gill3t.3ric+...@gmail.com
wrote:
2015-02-16 13:03 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
There are still cases where forward/backward are useful with P2-routes.
E.g. a route with a loop and some members used twice but different
directions.
On 04.03.2015 02:45, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Please retag indeed!
paving_stones:size=20cm
I agree that we should use a subtag instead of adding this kind of
rarely-used information to the surface value. However, I would prefer to
use paving_stones:width (as it is unclear what dimension size
Can you send links to the route relations? (Ctrl-Shft-h of Ctrl-Shift-i in
JOSM, then copy/paste the url).
That rendering with all the red lines is not the best way to represent PT.
Jo
2015-03-04 12:55 GMT+01:00 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org:
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Éric Gillet
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