Re: [Tagging] building=digester

2016-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
Hi Dave, Marc Zoutendijk wrote in his mail that he does not consider a greenhouse a building. m. On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I don't know where the notion came from saying a greenhouse is not a > building. It is not a residence but it is most certainly a building -

Re: [Tagging] building=digester

2016-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
Martin, so what is the definition of building in OSM ? "The building key is used to mark areas as a building." from the wiki page is pretty useless as definition. Neither the Building, nor the Buildings page teach me what is considered a building and what not. The building page just has a "number

Re: [Tagging] building=digester

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Swarthout
I don't know where the notion came from saying a greenhouse is not a building. It is not a residence but it is most certainly a building - it has doors, walls and a roof, Just because they're made of glass doesn't disqualify it from the building category. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Martin Ko

Re: [Tagging] building=digester

2016-05-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-05-19 20:50 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Marc Zoutendijk > wrote: > > That's because everything that is a building should be tagged as a > building” > > so I looked at the wikipedia definition of building [1], and their > definition of non-buildings [2] > At this

Re: [Tagging] building=digester

2016-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: > That's because everything that is a building should be tagged as a building” so I looked at the wikipedia definition of building [1], and their definition of non-buildings [2] At this moment I think that digester/bioreactor belongs to the

Re: [Tagging] Mapping pergolas/arbors

2016-05-19 Thread Kurt Waldhans
What's about building=roof layer=1 roof:material=plants rendered on map, way may pass below, no new tags necessary Kurt ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] building=digester

2016-05-19 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
> Op 19 mei 2016, om 14:46 heeft Marc Gemis het volgende > geschreven: > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Marc Zoutendijk > wrote: >> And as a side note I could say: >> Combining man_made=* AND building=* on the same object (as is often done to >> make it appear on the map) is as wrong as

Re: [Tagging] Mapping pergolas/arbors

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Swarthout
Thanks Marc, yes, shelter_type is the one I've used in the past. I was using my phone while boarding a plane and didn't have time to do a proper look-up. There have been discussions in the past about the use of the "type" key and so shelter_type would be much preferred. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:1

Re: [Tagging] building=digester

2016-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: > And as a side note I could say: > Combining man_made=* AND building=* on the same object (as is often done to > make it appear on the map) is as wrong as using highway=* and waterway=* on > the same object. It is one or the other, but can

Re: [Tagging] Suggested way to map disputed country borders

2016-05-19 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rory McCann wrote: > Both of the example maps of Russia/Ukraine and India/Pakistan > require the use of another data set. Which is a shame. One should > be able to generate that from OSM entirely. Why? OSM's selling point is not "all geodata, ever, in one place". OSM's selling point is personal

Re: [Tagging] Suggested way to map disputed country borders

2016-05-19 Thread Colin Smale
I see two parallel subjects here: 1) how do we represent disputed borders and "different versions of the truth" in OSM 2) how do we use that mechanism responsibly Whatever criteria are used for 2), the chances are there is always going to be a need for 1). //colin On 2016-05-19 12:08, Mart

Re: [Tagging] Suggested way to map disputed country borders

2016-05-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-05-19 11:55 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole : > The current mapping of de-facto boundaries of effective control is > easily defensible and has a certain logic that even the greatest > nationalists typically will accept (that knowing who really controls an > area is helpful in avoiding getting killed).

Re: [Tagging] Suggested way to map disputed country borders

2016-05-19 Thread Simon Poole
As somebody who regularly has to respond to complaints from officials and others on boundary matters, I fail to see how mapping additional borders (and a lot of them, given that there are nearly no countries without disputes) is going to help. Matter of fact it is guaranteed to make things worse an

Re: [Tagging] Suggested way to map disputed country borders

2016-05-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-05-19 10:05 GMT+02:00 Rory McCann : > I'm not suggesting mapping every little "someone in $COUNTRY thinks > $AREA should be in their country", I'm suggesting mapping areas which > governments claim. Imagine you had to make a map for the government of > $COUNTRY, and they required the borders

Re: [Tagging] Suggested way to map disputed country borders

2016-05-19 Thread Rory McCann
On 07/05/16 11:54, Andy Townsend wrote: > The problem with answering Rory's original question directly is that in > OSM we try and "map what's on the ground", and don't map stuff that's > never going to happen (for example, if a village thinks that it'd be > really nice if there was a bypass around