Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-23 Thread Stefan Nagy
Am Dienstag, den 16.01.2018, 11:43 -0600 schrieb Paul Johnson: > On Jan 16, 2018 05:36, "Stefan Nagy" wrote: > > Am 16.01.2018 12:10 schrieb marc marc: > > > we probably need to work on "default values". > > > but no one seems motivated to work on the proposal. > > > > Is 'default values' a bett

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-23 Thread djakk djakk
Hello Stefan ! I'd make a big polygon :) I think this has never been used before, but I don't see any problem using it - except that inheritance of the tags won't be mentioned in the editors Julien "djakk" 2018-01-13 20:21 GMT+01:00 Stefan Nagy : > Hi, > > in Vienna, Austria parking space mana

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - Voting - Pressurized waterways

2018-01-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
uto, 23. sij 2018. u 16:16 François Lacombe napisao je: > > To get the whole hydrographic system, users have to query waterway, > pipeline and some other keys not all related to water. > If all water paths would have only waterway=*, this would be simpler and > sustainable. > Would you be happy i

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - Voting - Pressurized waterways

2018-01-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
I would like to add tunnel=headrace to the waterway=drain because that's how they are called. Just google "headrace tunnel" and this is exactly what you will get. The pressurized pipeline that goes into the hydro power plant is called "penstock": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penstock That's why

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - Voting - Pressurized waterways

2018-01-23 Thread François Lacombe
2018-01-23 16:41 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > > Not to mention standard osm render doesn't currently render pipelines. > > Introducing a new value of waterway, already imported in mapnik schema > > may be simpler than adding pipeline and some extra keys. > > Changing tagging scheme as workarou

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - Voting - Pressurized waterways

2018-01-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
> Not to mention standard osm render doesn't currently render pipelines. > Introducing a new value of waterway, already imported in mapnik schema > may be simpler than adding pipeline and some extra keys. Changing tagging scheme as workaround for a single database is a really poor idea. > Would

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - Voting - Pressurized waterways

2018-01-23 Thread François Lacombe
2018-01-23 14:25 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:45:18 +0100 > François Lacombe wrote: > > > and ease access of water data with the use of existing waterway key > > Can you give example of real data consumer(s) where it will improve > situation? > > From somebody making map

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - Voting - Pressurized waterways

2018-01-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-23 14:25 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > As data consumer I would prefer to have general tags - for example, in my > data processing I would prefer to have > spillways mapped as waterway=canal + intermittent=yes rather than > waterway=spillway. > or maybe waterway:function / waterway:sub

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - Voting - Pressurized waterways

2018-01-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:45:18 +0100 François Lacombe wrote: > and ease access of water data with the use of existing waterway key Can you give example of real data consumer(s) where it will improve situation? >From somebody making maps from OSM data - it will make situation worse for me, not bet

Re: [Tagging] default value [was: Short-term parking zones]

2018-01-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-23 12:58 GMT+01:00 marc marc : > > it separates the work into 2 distinct tasks: > if I see a "urban area" sign, I tag maxspeed:type=urban. > I automatically take advantage of the default values existing on > boundary without having to worry about which hierarchical level is > responsible f

Re: [Tagging] default value [was: Short-term parking zones]

2018-01-23 Thread marc marc
Le 23. 01. 18 à 12:38, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > those who add the panel in osm are not necessarily aware of the level > of government that can change its default value. > t... > the solution would again to have a default:maxspeed on a boundary. > the panels should be simp

Re: [Tagging] default value [was: Short-term parking zones]

2018-01-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-23 12:05 GMT+01:00 marc marc : > > 2018-01-23 10:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > > If they already had the power, the source:maxspeed value should not > > have referred to BE but to Flanders specifically (BE:VL?). > > This usecase show that the country prefix is not useful. > >> >> I

Re: [Tagging] default value [was: Short-term parking zones]

2018-01-23 Thread marc marc
Le 23. 01. 18 à 10:31, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > 2018-01-23 10:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > > Was the speed limit already the responsibility of the regional > governments? Or was there a constitutional change to delegate that > power to them? > > If they already had the powe

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-23 10:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > Was the speed limit already the responsibility of the regional > governments? Or was there a constitutional change to delegate that power to > them? > > If they already had the power, the source:maxspeed value should not have > referred to BE but to Fland

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-23 Thread Colin Smale
Was the speed limit already the responsibility of the regional governments? Or was there a constitutional change to delegate that power to them? If they already had the power, the source:maxspeed value should not have referred to BE but to Flanders specifically (BE:VL?). On 2018-01-23 10:00, Mar

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-23 Thread Marc Gemis
We had this situation last year, when Flanders (northern part of Belgium) decided to change the speed limit from 90 km/h to 70 km/h. Brussels and Wallonia kept the default on 90 for rural roads. Not only was this for a part of the country, but many roads already had signs for maxspeed 70 or zone 70