Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On 27/06/18 08:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On 27 June 2018 at 02:22, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: I've set up a propsal, please comment: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/discounter

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 27/06/18 01:33, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 4:22 PM, marc marc > wrote: > >> >> maybe something like for=retailer >> like it exist for social_facility >> > > Best idea I've seen so far. OK, it's the

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On 27 June 2018 at 02:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I've set up a propsal, please comment: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/discounter > > Sorry Martin, but to me at least, that proposal doesn't really say anything? Couldn't *any* shop become a discounter, just by

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On 27/06/18 02:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2018-06-26 17:50 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny >: 26. Jun 2018 15:53 by pla16...@gmail.com : Again, I have to say that in the UK people think of Aldi and Lidl as

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On 27/06/18 01:33, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 4:22 PM, marc marc > wrote: Le 26. 06. 18 à 16:37, Paul Allen a écrit : > Ummm, so how do we map real wholesalers, who sell only to retailers and not > to the general public?

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

On 26/06/18 23:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2018-06-26 15:09 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny >: The same problem as with bakery. I would expect amenity=fast_food to sell something that at least can pretend to be a meal. I like cuisine tag, but I

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

On 6/26/2018 5:16 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Bretzel is German for pretzel. Brezel or Brezen is the German version, but the Swiss write Bretzel ;-) Now that you mention it, I've only ever seen it spelled Bretzel in Bern! and if it's baked on-site, I think shop=bakery is good.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 22:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I would prefer to keep it in aeroway as proposed, because it is aviation > related. > > Btw, the emergency key is about the location of emergency facilities and > equipment, would this even fit? > Yes, I would agree aeroway=, rather

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 21:25, Paul Allen wrote: > > Give way to low-flying aircraft. > Especially when it's a fighter returning to base! :-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

sent from a phone > On 26. Jun 2018, at 22:41, Jmapb wrote: > > and if it's baked on-site, I think shop=bakery is good. shop=bakery doesn’t imply that the bread is baked on site. You could use craft=baker (8) or bakery (139 uses) for it. cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

sent from a phone > On 26. Jun 2018, at 22:41, Jmapb wrote: > > Bretzel is German for pretzel. Brezel or Brezen is the German version, but the Swiss write Bretzel ;-) Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

On 6/26/2018 9:07 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: It is basically subtype of bagel* and similar to pretzel (bretzels is a typo, right?). * that appears to originate in the Jewish communities of Poland, with the first recorded mention in Jewish community ordinances in Kraków, Poland Bretzel is

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-26 17:50 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > 26. Jun 2018 15:53 by pla16...@gmail.com: > > Again, I have to say that in the UK people think of Aldi and Lidl as > supermarkets. Cheaper, different brands, but in > the same mental category as Tesco and Safeway. > > The same in Poland. > there

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-26 15:53 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen : > I'd categorize Toys "R" Us as a toy store and Staples as an office supply > store. As somebody else said in this > thread, we shouldn't be tagging shops differently because their prices are > lower. > the lower price comes at a cost. > "Today I

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

26. Jun 2018 15:43 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > polish_bagels=only? I dislike tag=it_is_something, small_part_of_thing=only tagging. (in that case it is shop=bakery, polish_bagels=only) ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

26. Jun 2018 15:53 by pla16...@gmail.com : > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <> > dieterdre...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> >> indeed Aldi is the first (at least in Europe) to operate this way. It is not >> unlikely

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 4:22 PM, marc marc wrote: > Le 26. 06. 18 à 16:37, Paul Allen a écrit : > > > Ummm, so how do we map real wholesalers, who sell only to retailers and > not > > to the general public? > > maybe something like for=retailer > like it exist for social_facility > Best idea

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

Le 26. 06. 18 à 16:37, Paul Allen a écrit : > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > `shop=wholesale` is what people are using for stores like Costco and > Sam’s Club: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dwholesale > > Well spotted,  I didn't think to

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: `shop=wholesale` is what people are using for stores like Costco and Sam’s > Club: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dwholesale > > Well spotted, I didn't think to look

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

> Meanwhile, there probably is a need to tag a kind of store that is sometimes > referred to as a discount store. I'm > thinking of the likes of Costco or Sam's Club. They're essentially > wholesalers operating on a cash and carry basis > and which are open to the public, not just retailers

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > indeed Aldi is the first (at least in Europe) to operate this way. It is > not unlikely the discount store description in wikipedia was influenced by > Germans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discount_store > > and names Aldi and

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

2018-06-26 15:09 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > The same problem as with bakery. I would expect amenity=fast_food to sell > something that > at least can pretend to be a meal. > > I like cuisine tag, but I will probably use cuisine=regional (and maybe > regional=obwarzanek). > I think this is

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

In the UK we have a chain called Greggs which fits this description. Most are tagged as amenity=fast_food although a few have seating so are tagged as cafés. Phil (trigpoint) On 26 June 2018 14:09:35 BST, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >The same problem as with bakery. I would expect

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

The same problem as with bakery. I would expect amenity=fast_food to sell something thatat least can pretend to be a meal. I like cuisine tag, but I will probably use cuisine=regional (and maybe regional=obwarzanek). 26. Jun 2018 12:03 by 61sundow...@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

It is basically subtype of bagel* and similar to pretzel (bretzels is a typo, right?). * that appears to originate in the Jewish communities of Poland,with the first recorded mention in Jewish community ordinances in Kraków, Poland 26. Jun 2018 11:58 by yve...@mailbox.org

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On 26 June 2018 10:24:16 BST, Selfish Seahorse wrote: >On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 11:01, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> >> Sorry for writing again, but I believe this discussion shows that the >term shop=discount is not self-explaining at all. It evokes different >thoughts in different people /

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

sent from a phone > On 26. Jun 2018, at 08:04, > wrote: > > Don't really have a strong opinion on it either way, just to raise a point > for discussion... but if it's for emergencies, should it have some tag in the > emergency=* namespace? I would prefer to keep it in aeroway as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > No strong opinion either, but how are these verified. Is there some sort > of sign? > Give way to low-flying aircraft. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Selfish Seahorse < selfishseaho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Any objections if I retag Poundland and Poundworld stores as > shop=variety_store? > That's how I would tag them if either of those chains had a presence in the areas I've been mapping. That's how I've

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > exactly. Wholesale is a different story. Discount shops do not sell huge > packings / wholesale confections with many boxes inside. They might sell > slightly bigger packages (often made on purpose for

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

It is a form of fast food .. so perhaps amenity=fast_food cuisine=obwarzanek ?? On 26/06/18 19:58, Yves wrote: This is similar to bretzels or bagels in other countries, right? Le 26 juin 2018 11:48:26 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : In Kraków there are some places selling

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

This is similar to bretzels or bagels in other countries, right? Le 26 juin 2018 11:48:26 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : >In Kraków there are some places selling solely specific baked product >(obwarzanek). >Tagging it as shop=bakery would be misleading, it is not selling normal >baked

[Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

In Kraków there are some places selling solely specific baked product (obwarzanek). Tagging it as shop=bakery would be misleading, it is not selling normal baked products.Obwarzanek is rather a snack, but it is not sweet so shop=pastry is also wrong. Obvious solution would be shop=obwarzanek

[Tagging] fee:permanent_exhibition=no, fee:temporary_exhibition=yes?

I want to tag that a museum has free entry on permanent exhibitionsand paid entry on temporary ones. I want to avoid fee:conditional as in this format it would not be usable at all. Especially as some museums have free entry on specific days. So museum with free entry on Sunday and free entry on

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 11:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Sorry for writing again, but I believe this discussion shows that the term > shop=discount is not self-explaining at all. It evokes different thoughts in > different people / national contexts. In Germany, the term "discounter" is >

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-26 11:00 GMT+02:00 Selfish Seahorse : > > As far as I know, prices are also low because discount stores > typically sell own labels (no name products) instead of band products, > because there's usually only one product per category instead of a > dozen of it (e.g. only one kind of

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 00:50, Paul Allen wrote: > > Discount stores are, as I understand it (I don't have any remotely near me) > more of a cut-down wholesaler but open > to the public. Presentation and packaging is that of a wholesaler, and > savings come from buying in bulk. Depending on >

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

Sorry for writing again, but I believe this discussion shows that the term shop=discount is not self-explaining at all. It evokes different thoughts in different people / national contexts. In Germany, the term "discounter" is clearly defined, but it doesn't seem this is a statement that can be

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-26 0:14 GMT+02:00 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > shop=convenience is a smaller supermarket, usually with longer opening > hours, but also more expensive than full size supermarkets. > > I would like to point out that scale does matter. A puddle is not a small lake. A lake is not a small ocean.

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-25 18:48 GMT+02:00 Tod Fitch : > In my area convenience stores are relatively small with a limited choice > of products with the defining feature being that they are open more hours > than a typical store, often open 24x7. > > Usually the prices are higher at a convenience store, not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

On 26/06/18 17:16, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 26/6/18 16:29, Philip Barnes wrote: No strong opinion either, but how are these verified. Is there some sort of sign? In Australia you get the "piano keys" painted on the road:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

On 26/06/18 16:29, Philip Barnes wrote: No strong opinion either, but how are these verified. Is there some sort of sign? Here, yes. and in some places; the road furniture (guide posts, speed signs) are removable so the wings clear things., and the police come out to remove the signs and close

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

On 26/6/18 16:29, Philip Barnes wrote: No strong opinion either, but how are these verified. Is there some sort of sign? In Australia you get the "piano keys" painted on the road: http://au.geoview.info/rfds_landing_strip_on_the_eyre_highway_wa,99731681p

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

On 26.06.2018 09:29, Philip Barnes wrote: > No strong opinion either, but how are these verified. Is there some > sort of sign? At least in Finland there is a warning sign of low-flying airplanes

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

No strong opinion either, but how are these verified. Is there some sort of sign? Phil (trigpoint) On 26 June 2018 07:04:35 BST, osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: >Don't really have a strong opinion on it either way, just to raise a >point for discussion... but if it's for emergencies,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway strip

Don't really have a strong opinion on it either way, just to raise a point for discussion... but if it's for emergencies, should it have some tag in the emergency=* namespace? > -Original Message- > From: Jyri-Petteri Paloposki > Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:56 > To: 'Tag discussion,