Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Graeme, Are aboriginal lands already in OSM as boundary relations? I believe there is some debate about whether to use boundary=protected_area or boundary=aboriginal_lands? I know that many Reservations in the USA are still yet to be mapped, though the data should be available from the government.

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 08:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I speak with a couple of people on other forums, one who manages the > stores in some of these communities in the Northern Territory & Western > Australia, & the other was Head Nurse in a local hospital, so I'll bounce > the question of

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I started a draft proposal focused on the use of the language tag as a default for names. I'm inclined to use a tag that is clearly limited to verifiable features of human geography. The terminology should also show that the tag is meant to be used in this database to help interprete name=* tags i

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Graeme, If the level 2 admin_boundary is tagged, it wouldn't be strictly necessary to tag each level 4 (State/Province) boundary if all are the same as the national level. Thank you for bringing up Aboriginal / Native American / First Peoples / Minority Ethnic Group language communities. I would s

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
this would also be useful for „micromapping“, e.g. the tag could be added to places like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5314074411 (ignore the position for the purpose of this discussion) currently you can’t see it is a place where English is spoken. Or less „famous“ features like embassies

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 23:14, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Would "language:en=yes" be enough for the mainland USA? Or > "language:en=main"; "langauge:en=majority"? > I was wondering the same thing for Australia? The official language is English so the level 2 (1 ?) admin zone would be tagged langua

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Good points everyone! Thank you for the link, I'm sorry that I missed the April discussion (It's difficult to search these lists). But I’m glad to see that this is not a novel idea. It looks like some of the same issues came up, and tagging admin boundaries was the best solution, though places cou

Re: [Tagging] Why isn't the amenity=parking object part of the relation ?

2018-09-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-09-14 11:49 GMT+02:00 Lionel Giard : > But i recognize that i have probably over-extended the definition with its > use for the "simple" parking. Do you think i should remove the relation for > the 'simple' parking that are "only on the surface" and all contained into > the amenity=parking po

Re: [Tagging] Why isn't the amenity=parking object part of the relation ?

2018-09-14 Thread Lionel Giard
You are right in that in regards to KISS, i was not seeing it as being more complex but easier to interact with the parking_space elements via editor (but that was personal preference for sure). I was also following the description here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 14. Sep 2018, at 10:18, Colin Smale wrote: >>> On 2018-09-14 08:47, Frederik Ramm wrote: >>> >> I'd go for a mixed approach - tag the (largest useful) administrative >> boundary first, and then allow lower level admin boundaries and finally, >> place nodes, to override th

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-14 Thread Colin Smale
On 2018-09-14 08:47, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I'd go for a mixed approach - tag the (largest useful) administrative > boundary first, and then allow lower level admin boundaries and finally, > place nodes, to override the default. Sounds good! Let's use that approach for e.g. maxspeed as well. It l

Re: [Tagging] Why isn't the amenity=parking object part of the relation ?

2018-09-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 14. Sep 2018, at 08:40, OSMDoudou <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: >> I’m hardly using the site relation because you can express almost everything >> spatially (a (multi-) polygon for the site > > Can you give a link to such an example ? every area