Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

Agreed. I just responded something similar. Question is now how to tag properly. I don't expect a tag called "seveso". I would use a tag that mentions the norm in a way or another, but I'm not sure how to best do it. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

The case at hand here is a norm to characterize a hazard, not the result of a past incident. In fact, I don't mind if the tags are not detailed. I was thinking to reflect the classification scheme in place. A bit like the stars for hotels. If it's a 4 star hotel, we don't tag all the details of

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 at 09:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > what kind of risk is the risk_level addressing? “chemical” is very > generic, may be fine for the first level but should get a more detailed > subtag aside. Also we should maybe distinguish between sites with supposed > contamination and

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

sent from a phone > On 8. Nov 2019, at 23:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > hazard=chemical > "risk_level"=low/medium/high what kind of risk is the risk_level addressing? “chemical” is very generic, may be fine for the first level but should get a more detailed subtag aside. Also we should

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

How about as hazards? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hazard It appears it was originally intended for road hazards but certainly comments on the pge re extending it to other hazardous situations. Possibly mark a chemical plant (in addition to industrial site etc) something

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

On Friday, 8 November 2019, Warin wrote: > > There is simply too much other stuff to do that be worried by every > driveway. So I only map them where they are of some interest to other > than the resident. > This has been mine, and many other OSM mappers view up until recently. However home

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

sent from a phone > On 8. Nov 2019, at 17:14, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> (Special permission for extreme weather should be encoded with some >> variation of the conditional access tag scheme.) >> > +1 > > In Poland it is countrywide law applying for all sidewalks, not signed > anywhere.

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

On 08/11/2019 03:32, Warin wrote: There is simply too much other stuff to do that be worried by every driveway. So I only map them where they are of some interest to other than the resident. Apologies Warin, but this has just made me genuinely lol. You have an opinion on almost every minutiae

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

Indeed. I'm not an expert, but it's a good summary. Data about the classification is available and of public interest, so I'm wondering how to tag. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Changeset 62867521

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:50 AM Paul Johnson wrote: > It's a trail just for firefighting and rescue to access, but closed to all others, correct? That is not correct. There is no legal restriction on its use for foot travel. ___ Tagging mailing list Tag

Re: [Tagging] Changeset 62867521

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:30 PM Mike Thompson wrote: > Hello, > > User dvdhns are having a friendly discussion regarding this changeset: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62867521#map=16/40.3021/-105.6436 > > They have some good reasons for adding "(off trail)" to the end of the > name to

Re: [Tagging] Changeset 62867521

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:37 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I just added my thoughts to the changeset comment. Thanks for commenting. > Generally an "official" (I use the term loosely) trail will be signposted Agree. It will also show up on official park maps, and possibly in official park GIS data.

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:50 AM Dave F via Tagging wrote: > Hi > > In the UK, Amazon Logistics are adding useful data from their GPS'd > delivery vehicles. Mainly highway=service as the last part of their > journey to a destination. > > However, one of their contributors removed service=driveway f

Re: [Tagging] Changeset 62867521

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 8:22 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > In the second case: is fire trail illegal No, there are no signs on or near the trail indicating this. Nor are there any signs in the park that going off official trails is illegal (there are a few restricted areas elsewhere in the par

Re: [Tagging] Supermarket pick-up service

On 08.11.2019 13:40, Philip Barnes wrote: > Its not a shop, you don't buy anything there. In my local case, the payment is done at collection time with any method the main marked uses, i.e. cash and card. Thus I'd call it a shop > Maybe supermarket=customer_collect or customer_pickup. Collect f

Re: [Tagging] Traffic Signs (was: Re: Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?)

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:02 AM Andy Townsend wrote: > My experience of the US is much less, but what I would say is that > signage there is more likely to be just text, and that text may be > complicated. Parking signs are an example of this (and a bit of a trope > there - see e.g. > http://www.

Re: [Tagging] Traffic Signs "pushing bicycle not allowed here"

8 Nov 2019, 16:56 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com: > Le 08.11.19 à 16:16, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > >> 7 Nov 2019, 14:39 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com: >> >>> Le 07.11.19 à 14:01, Andy Townsend a écrit : >>> you won't see a unique sign that identifies "you can't cycle here" >>> an goo

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

8 Nov 2019, 09:47 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > > >> On 7. Nov 2019, at 18:54, Jmapb via Tagging <>> tagging@openstreetmap.org >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't see any reason why data >> consumer

Re: [Tagging] Traffic Signs "pushing bicycle not allowed here"

Le 08.11.19 à 16:16, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > 7 Nov 2019, 14:39 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com: >> Le 07.11.19 à 14:01, Andy Townsend a écrit : >>> you won't see a unique sign that identifies "you can't cycle here" >> an good pratice rule is "don't map the legislation", isn't it

Re: [Tagging] Changeset 62867521

8 Nov 2019, 02:29 by miketh...@gmail.com: > Hello, > > User dvdhns are having a friendly discussion regarding this changeset: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62867521#map=16/40.3021/-105.6436 > > > They have

Re: [Tagging] Traffic Signs "pushing bicycle not allowed here"

7 Nov 2019, 14:39 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com: > Le 07.11.19 à 14:01, Andy Townsend a écrit : > >> you won't see a unique sign that identifies "you can't cycle here" >> > > an good pratice rule is "don't map the legislation", isn't it ?? > no sign ? thus no tag on the way > Not always. Typical

Re: [Tagging] Supermarket pick-up service

I encountered shop=outpost used for that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Doutpost May be poor name - AFAIK it never went through a proposal process and appeared in non-english countries first, but is fairly popular. 8 Nov

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

8 Nov 2019, 01:45 by cliff...@snowandsnow.us: > Maybe one day our emergency services will consider using OSM. > Aready used in Poland (or maybe were used) due to problems with official data (refusal to provide official road data to firefighters, datasets were disjoint on edges of internal bou

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

7 Nov 2019, 18:53 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > On 11/6/2019 3:08 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> bicycle_pushed=no? >> >> bicycle_pushed is more clearfor someone encountering it >> for the first time -bicycle=total_ban is a bit confusing >> >> Especially as in some pl

Re: [Tagging] Supermarket pick-up service

Its not a shop, you don't buy anything there. Maybe supermarket=customer_collect or customer_pickup. Collect fits my British English ears better than pickup, that means something a bit different. One supermarket uses the marketing term Click and Collect. They are covered, so the customer can dr

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

On 08/11/2019 09:44, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: My first guess is it's at least roughly analogous to a Superfund site in the US. That's what I thought at first reading too, but perhaps its meant more to describe somewhere where a disaster might happen rather than one where one already has? The

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

Seveso sites are all sites identified as source for a "potential major industrial hazard" (mainly big chemical plant - and it doesn't include the military or nuclear facilities). It is named after the Seveso disaster of 1976 (Seveso is a town in Italy

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

On 11/8/19 03:34, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > What is a Seveso site? The link to the directive on Wikipedia says: > > “a European Union >  directive >  aimed at > controlling major chemical ac

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

What is a Seveso site? The link to the directive on Wikipedia says: “a European Union directive aimed at controlling major chemical accident hazards. Seveso III is implemented in national

[Tagging] Supermarket pick-up service

A supermarket chain offers to order groceries online, being collected and packed, and picked up by the customers themselves in a small shop in the local supermarket building. Illustration [1]. How should the shop be tagged? shop=pick-up ? tom [1] https://shop.rewe-static.de/homepage/239036b7

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

sent from a phone On 7. Nov 2019, at 18:54, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't see any reason why data consumers, including the bicycle modes of routing engines, should ever interpret bicycle=no in a way that permits walking bicycles. the tag “bicycle” accord

[Tagging] How to tag Seveso sites ?

Hello, I was wondering how to tag Seveso sites. [1] I found a page in French language on the wiki which indirectly mentions the possibility to tag "seuilːFRːDREAL=haut/bas" (with tag and value in French language). [2] Taginfo shows it's indeed in use, but only in France. [3] I se

Re: [Tagging] Traffic Signs "pushing bicycle not allowed here"

sent from a phone > On 7. Nov 2019, at 14:57, Andy Townsend wrote: > >> an good practice rule is "don't map the legislation", isn't it ?? > > If you can infer defaults from legislation, sure, but as has previously been > said you explicitly can't do that here. +1 Cheers Martin __