Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

Problem with applying different road classification system from different places with their individual tags onto local roads is that: 1. Even if we ignore countries that have different rules within different part of a single country, there are still about 200 countries in this world. Each of them h

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 20/12/19 17:18, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Il ven 20 dic 2019, 01:16 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > ha scritto: On 20/12/19 10:15, Chris Hill wrote: I have been a native British English speaker for about sixty years. A trip from A to B and then

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

20 Dec 2019, 01:25 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > So, for example, in the US, instead of motorway, trunk, primary, secondary, > tertiary, perhaps something more like freeway, expressway, > major/minor_principal (just having this would fix a *lot* of problems with > Texas and Missouri and their ex

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

Il ven 20 dic 2019, 01:16 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > On 20/12/19 10:15, Chris Hill wrote: > > I have been a native British English speaker for about sixty years. A trip > from A to B and then back to A, either on a fully reversed route or an > alternative route, would could be des

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

Il ven 20 dic 2019, 04:21 Graeme Fitzpatrick ha scritto: > > > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 10:37, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> it’s in the “back again”, makes it likely you take the same way. >> > > Sorry, Martin, not at all. I do a weekly round trip of ~38 klm - roughly > 13 k down & 15 k

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

I think roundtrip is not about the route taken, but about the transport taking you somewhere, you do your thing there, then transport back to where you started. It's more like a service kind of thing. I don't use it when the relation shows exactly what the route is. I only find it useful to indi

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 10:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > it’s in the “back again”, makes it likely you take the same way. > Sorry, Martin, not at all. I do a weekly round trip of ~38 klm - roughly 13 k down & 15 k back, mainly because I leave the Motorway at exit 92 but have to come back on

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

Can't disagree with the idea behind it, Paul. As we've mentioned any number of times, there are areas here in Australia (as there would be in the US, Canada & any number of other places), that [/the/] (one & only) road servicing an area is dirt, if you're lucky, 2 lanes wide, but is used constantl

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 20/12/19 11:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 20. Dec 2019, at 01:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Oxford Dictionary (usually taken as a good source for UK English): a journey to a place and back again it’s in the “back again”, makes it likely you take the same

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

sent from a phone > On 20. Dec 2019, at 01:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oxford Dictionary (usually taken as a good source for UK English): a journey > to a place and back again it’s in the “back again”, makes it likely you take the same way. The word “Rundweg” which apparent

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:19 PM Martijn van Exel wrote: > I actually like your suggestion that highway=trunk does not add much value > to the U.S. map, Eric. > We love to add detail / granularity to OSM so much, it can become hard to > envisage taking some away. > Not saying we should abolish tru

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 20/12/19 10:15, Chris Hill wrote: I have been a native British English speaker for about sixty years. A trip from A to B and then back to A, either on a fully reversed route or an alternative route, would could be described as a round trip. There is certainly no element of a curved or loop

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

I have been a native British English speaker for about sixty years. A trip from A to B and then back to A, either on a fully reversed route or an alternative route, would could be described as a round trip. There is certainly no element of a curved or looping route required to make it a round t

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

Merriam Webster and some other resources you have quoted are dictionary for American English, not the variant of English used by OSM. Posts by original author of the topic on the wiki talk page have explained the meaning of the term in British English. 在 2019年12月20日週五 06:19，Francesco Ansanelli 寫道

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

Il gio 19 dic 2019, 23:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > On 20/12/19 01:16, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > I have updated the roundtrip page and created the closed loop proposal > > in order to address the misuse of the first tag: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 20/12/19 01:16, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Dear List, I have updated the roundtrip page and created the closed loop proposal in order to address the misuse of the first tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:roundtrip https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:closed_lo

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

If a route ends where it begins, it's a roundtrip, but you don't need to tag that because it's in the relation. The only thing I find useful is tagging roundtrip=yes when the route is not a true closed loop, but still catalogues for hikers as a roundtrip, even though it may have branches and sho

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

sent from a phone > On 19. Dec 2019, at 21:23, Florimond Berthoux > wrote: > > It's to tag the access to this new kind of bicycle parking designed > for cargo bikes in Paris > https://framapic.org/w4zmjIvtoxim/1qsfbMKa1iVI.jpg > I'd like to have the word for all the kinds of those bicycle typ

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

sent from a phone > On 19. Dec 2019, at 22:16, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > you have changed the meaning of the tag from inluding the possibility of a > loop to exluding it. it may be too early to change definitions, but previous discussions have shown that there was confusion about the roundt

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

We have a somewhat related problem her in Italy. Cycleways and in particular foot-cycleways are full of chicane-type of bicycle barriers, where a normal bicycle passes, maybe with the cyclist putting the feet on the ground, but tandems, cargo-bikes or bikes with baggage trailers (very popular with

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 21:45, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > > Il gio 19 dic 2019, 21:28 Phake Nick ha scritto: > >> The current usage is that, "Use roundtrip=yes to indicate that the start >> and finish of the route are at the same location". As in a route from Paris >> to Milano to Frankfurt t

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

In the USA we call them “cargo bikes”. This would translate bakfiets in the Netherlanders Which have a bucket up front, as well as “long-tail” cargo bikes which carry the kids or stuff behind the rider, and cargo trikes too. https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/a25054215/best-cargo-bikes/ -Joseph

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

Il gio 19 dic 2019, 21:28 Phake Nick ha scritto: > The current usage is that, "Use roundtrip=yes to indicate that the start > and finish of the route are at the same location". As in a route from Paris > to Milano to Frankfurt then back to Paris would be tagged as roundtrip=yes. > You have edited

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

The current usage is that, "Use roundtrip=yes to indicate that the start and finish of the route are at the same location". As in a route from Paris to Milano to Frankfurt then back to Paris would be tagged as roundtrip=yes. You have edited the wiki against established usage to make it become a no.

[Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

Hello, What's the english word for this kind of bicycle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freight_bicycle ? It's to tag the access to this new kind of bicycle parking designed for cargo bikes in Paris https://framapic.org/w4zmjIvtoxim/1qsfbMKa1iVI.jpg I'd like to have the word for all the kinds of tho

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

Tom Pfeifer writes: > On 18.12.2019 16:26, Andy Townsend wrote: >> On 18/12/2019 15:22, Tod Fitch wrote: >>> In the U.S. it would be called wifi or wi-fi rather than >>> wlan. Anyone know what the British English is? >> In the UK it's also "wifi" or "wi-fi", but wlan is understood and >> has cons

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

Dear Volker, I haven't change the meaning of Roundtrip, but just reworded to clarify it. Roundtrip yes is not a closed loop... Please check this discussion: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:roundtrip#loop Cheers Francesco Il gio 19 dic 2019, 15:40 Volker Schmidt ha scritto: > Ple

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

Please relable your "roundtrip" proposal as such. Please do not change the meaning of an established tag. roundtrip=yes|no is used about 34k times, based on a different definition, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cycle_routes#Relations Volker On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 15:18, Francesco Ansa

[Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

Dear List, I have updated the roundtrip page and created the closed loop proposal in order to address the misuse of the first tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:roundtrip https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:closed_loop=yes Please let me know what you think Many th

Re: [Tagging] Vegan "cheese" shops

On 18/12/2019 15:58, Robert Skedgell wrote: I've just been to La Fauxmagerie in Shoreditch, London, a vegan "cheese" shop. It's currently tagged as shop=greengrocer, which is clearly wrong (any fruit and vegetables they sell are in the form of chutney or pickles). Sounds like a case for the ne