[Tagging] [Voting] Feature Proposal - denomination=latter_day_saint (for real this time)

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/voting-feature-proposal-denomination-latter-day-saint-for-real-this-time/118759 NB I am just posting it here, it is not my proposal! Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.op

[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - One-way for pedestrians

Please see https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rfc-feature-proposal-one-way-for-pedestrians/118192 NB I am only posting this link, the proposal is not mine! Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.

[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Flowlines

Where a watercourse enters a lake and ceases to be recognizable as a stream or river, start a way tagged waterway=flowline. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Flowlines NB This is nothing to do with me I am only posting it to list per request from OP ( JesseFTW

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 21:21, bkil wrote: > Yes, that would be even better. > sells:bread=wholemeal:x;y;wholemeal:z > But if you're selling ="white variety-a", "wholemeal variety-a", "multi-grain variety-a", "gluten-free variety-a", then the same for varieties b, c & so on, I can see a 255-charac

Re: [Tagging] Difference between "yes" and "designated" in access tags

On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 at 16:36, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > At least in Poland we distinguish between > signage with legal implications and route > markers. > > In fact, some bicycle trails are signed where > cycling is illegal > So does that then make it l

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

Thanks, all! Graeme On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2024 um 09:47 Uhr schrieb Jo : > >> I was wondering about that myself. They seem to be 'long' steps. So a >> horse wouldn't have too much trouble with them. >> > > > > there is this property whi

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

Completely aside from mapping them in OSM, but how do horses handle the steps in the bridleway? Thanks Graeme On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 05:41, Peter Neale via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Hi DaveF, > > Acting on advice, I have already split the Bridleway and re-tagged 2 > section

Re: [Tagging] Defibrillators

Tag already set-up for them, Tim: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=defibrillator?uselang=en Some groups are also working on mapping them as well. Whereabouts are you? Thanks Graeme On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 10:43, Timothy Noname wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking at creating/documentin

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Documenting feet as an an optional elevation unit

In regard to "exact" accuracy, spotted this article a few weeks ago in regard to the Japanese earthquake: https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/society/noto-peninsula-earthquake/20240111-161375/ 70cm / 28" to 2m / 6'6" horizontal & 3cm / 1.25" to 1.3m / 4'4" vertical movement! :-( Thanks Graeme On

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

Not arguing, but oneway:foot = 5024 foot:backward = 394 foot:forward = 300 Personally, I would interpret that as time that the wiki had a rewrite! :-) Thanks Graeme On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 19:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 11 Sep 2023, a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 16:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > The problem is that we frequently have cycleways or food-cycle-ways that > are legally oneway for cyclists, but not for pedestrians. They are tagged > "oneway=yes". I agree we need a oneway tag for pedestrians, but it cannot > be a simple one

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 01:25, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Volker Schmidt: > > Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not > for pedestrians. > > > We do have a lot of highway=footway,oneway=yes > Also know of suspended Tree Walk walkways e.g. https://www.openstree

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

Just commented on the Forum, but I'll repeat it here. There are too many things to take into account that may affect your coverage - different networks, different phones on the same network, how crowded any spot is at the time = how much demand, whether there may be a good spot up that hill etc S

[Tagging] Refreshed proposal - Emergency=disaster_response

Advising on behalf of the originator that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Emergency%3Ddisaster_response has been refreshed with new content. So far, the person who redid it is only on the talk page, but further conversation is also on the Forum at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger

On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 05:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > https://i.etsystatic.com/26861520/r/il/09aa34/3144992841/il_1140xN.3144992841_ps9i.jpg > Ah, but is that frame, material or surface? :-) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/benches-material/100491 Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 07:42, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 01:47 2023-06-27, Martin Koppenhoefer đã viết: > > what’s the category for multi role combat aircraft or heavy battletanks? > > Why do you ask? 🤔 > So they can be listed as shop=weapons, perhaps? :-) Thanks Graeme _

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 at 03:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > but I have never seen a convenience store selling auto supplies, > Do you have stores attached to service stations, selling bread, milk, snacks, drinks etc? If so, they would probably also have a couple of shelves of auto stuff. Than

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 22:11, Greg Troxel wrote: > > an air rifle is not a firearm, in English, because there is no > combustion > Unfortunately, in Australia at least, air rifles are actually officially classed as firearms! :-( Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 14:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Jun 20, 2023, 01:36 by g...@lexort.com: > > In English, the adjective for the shop tends to be singular, when that > adjective is a noun. The plural just sounds funny. For example we have > "car deale

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 14:31, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I have created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dknives > Thanks > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dammunition has single use > Is there a different tagging for that or

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 11:03, stevea wrote: > Postscript: I find Minh's examples (a drive-through liquor store with > live fishing bait, a supermarket with mattresses and tool sheds, a > laundromat with treadmills, a car wash and tanning beds...) to be each and > every one of true, well-research

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 09:26, Greg Troxel wrote: > > In the US, even in Massachusetts, usage is "gun store" (store US vs shop > UK, as usual) if being casual, and "firearms" if being formal. I have > never heard any (civilian) store be desribed as a "weapons store". > Yep, & they don't buy from

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 02:57, Illia Marchenko wrote: > As possible solution, *shop=weapon* > Sorry, but speaking as a recreational shooter, & on behalf of all others, we find the use of the term "weapons" for our chosen sporting tools more than somewhat offensive - recreational shooters don't us

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 22:43, Marc_marc wrote: > > but what's the playing area ? > Yep, good question, with no across-the-board answer! As you say, you can play tennis from "outside" the court, but in most ball games, if the ball (& sometimes player) crosses the marked line, that's out! & then

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 06:10, Raphael wrote: > > Does the area outside the sidelines of a pitch up a board, a fence, a > change in surface or similar belong to a pitch (sports field) or not? > I'm asking because there's [some disagreement][^1] about how to map > `leisure=pitch`: [like this][^2] o

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

On Tue, 16 May 2023 at 18:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > emergency=control_centre/administration ??? > That was the plan! emergency=control_centre for the place where disaster / emergency responses are controlled / co-ordinated from e.g. https://kedrontoday.com.au/sdcc-at-kedron-to-ge

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

During discussions on one of the proposals that finished up as emergency=water_rescue ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_talk:Emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Use_on_Rescue-related_sites), there was suggestion of office=government + government=transportation + emergency=control_centre for t

Re: [Tagging] unicode in direction_* for guildepost to describe what it is related to, e.g. hiking

Is that actually on the sign? If not, it shouldn't be mapped. Thanks Graeme On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 08:59, Marc_marc wrote: > Hello, > > a specialist appearance contributor adds in unicode characters > to visually represent the type of travel present on a guildepost > > is this really a good

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

Thanks fellas, both fair comments! Graeme On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 at 13:15, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 at 08:17, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 20:48, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >>> (admin_level 4/6/8, normally). &

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 at 03:06, Tod Fitch wrote: > the toll roads in my area. They are, I believe, owned by a toll road > authority > Owned, or leased? Around here, toll roads & bridges are built by the Govt, using public funds, then the actual operation is leased to a private company, who collec

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 20:48, Greg Troxel wrote: > (admin_level 4/6/8, normally). > Would it work to add the admin_level= to the road to say which level of Government owns it? Then I would think that a search should be able to say that this is an AL2 highway in the country of Norway, so owned

Re: [Tagging] sport=inline_hockey a good value ?

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 at 01:56, Marc_marc wrote: > > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/sport=inline_hockey > does this term correspond to British English term ? > I must admit to not knowing the sport term specifically, but inline skates, as opposed to roller skates, is certainly valid BE. if

Re: [Tagging] Wall gardens as ways?

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 14:37, Kai Michael Poppe wrote: > Just updated the Wiki. > Thanks! Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Wall gardens as ways?

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 17:02, joost schouppe wrote: > Hi, > > I made a proposal for facade gardens some time back, see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Facade_garden > Thanks for that. Yes, I see now that they are different things On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 18:12, Martin Koppe

[Tagging] Wall gardens as ways?

We were discussing this article earlier: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-28/urban-nature-sydney-developers-incentives-rooftop-gardens-green/102030006 & I wondered if we even have a way of mapping wall gardens? Turns out that yes we do (Of course! :-)): leisure=garden + garden:type=green_wall,

Re: [Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=air_rescue_service

Proposal has been approved with 20 yes, 2 no, 0 abstentions, so thank you everybody. Will sort the pages out over the next few days. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 at 09:34, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Last day for voting! > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On Sun, 19 F

Re: [Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=water_rescue

Proposal has been approved with 20 yes to 3 no, so thank you everybody. Will sort the pages out over the next few days. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 at 09:34, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Last day for voting! > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 1

Re: [Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=air_rescue_service

Last day for voting! Thanks Graeme On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 13:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Response so far has been overwhelmingly positive! :-) > > Another week of voting to go if you'd like to please add your vote? > > Updated link giving the co

Re: [Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=water_rescue

Last day for voting! Thanks Graeme On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 13:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 10:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dwater_rescue >> > >

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bbq without grill/grate ?

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 at 23:16, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > does `amenity=bbq` + `grate=no` make any sense to you, No, not really. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstree

Re: [Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=water_rescue

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 10:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dwater_rescue > Voting has been extremely positive so far! Still open for another week if you'd like to please add your vote

Re: [Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=air_rescue_service

10:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Same for this one, if there are no further comments, I'll move it to > voting in a couple of days. > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/emergency%3Dair_rescue_s

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 at 10:18, stevea wrote: > "Brevity is the soul of wit" is true for reasons. > & when you're only brief half the time ... ? :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listin

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 at 05:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > A wetland is a land area that is saturated with water, either permanently > or seasonally” > But does "seasonally" include "maybe once every 20 years"? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] drones

Here are the Australian rules: https://www.casa.gov.au/knowyourdrone/drone-rules They're more a matter of saying No, you can't, rather than Yes, you can! I don't think that it would work in OSM? Thanks Graeme On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 04:10, Craig Wallace wrote: > On 2023-02-10 11:43, Anne-Kar

Re: [Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=water_rescue

Have now opened voting. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 10:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Getting back to this after a busy few weeks, if there are no further > comments, I'll move it to voting in a couple of days. > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Prop

[Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=air_rescue_service

Same for this one, if there are no further comments, I'll move it to voting in a couple of days. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/emergency%3Dair_rescue_service Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Proposed_features: emergency=water_rescue

Getting back to this after a busy few weeks, if there are no further comments, I'll move it to voting in a couple of days. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dwater_rescue Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@op

Re: [Tagging] leisure=practice_pitch a bad idea because too overspecific for a main tag ?

On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 20:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > but you typically cannot see details like a basketball court with just one > basket. > But iD, at least, when tagging basketball "pitches" asks for the number of hoops, with 1 as an option. Does that info then go anywhere downstream? T

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

The old Australian version of what I think is the same thing were nicknamed Silent Cops. Article about them: https://www.shannons.com.au/club/forum/general/who-remembers-silent-cops/ Thanks Graeme On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 07:04, Colin Smale wrote: > The "Priority to the right" rule doesn't cov

Re: [Tagging] craft vs office for service enterprises/establishments.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 at 02:51, Daniel Bégin wrote: > and office=psychologist because they provide services. > I would usually use healthcare=psychotherapist for them. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.opens

Re: [Tagging] caravans en-de inconsistency

When I created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcaravan, I defined them as: "recreational vehicles such as towed caravans (a.k.a travel trailers, pop-tops, camper trailers, tent trailers, 5th wheelers etc); powered, self-propelled motorhomes (camper vans, expedition vehicles, truck t

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 02:44, Illia Marchenko wrote: > > Maybe *storage_tank=open *or similar. > I think this one may be the simplest solution. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/

Re: [Tagging] Change emergency=lifeboat-station to water-rescue

On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 14:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > New proposal done: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dwater_rescue > Everything is quiet! :-) Does that mean that people are happy with how it looks? Thank

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=air rescue service

On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 at 18:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > is this thought for places where emergency aircraft is located or should > it also be applied to places which are merely used for administration or > training? > Was really only thinking of the operational side of things. Thanks Graem

[Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=air rescue service

Have now raised a proposal for emergency air-rescue services, further broken down into search and rescue, and aeromedical (Air Ambulance) services. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dair_rescue_service All comments welcome either here, on the talk page https://wiki.

Re: [Tagging] Change emergency=lifeboat-station to water-rescue

New proposal done: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dwater_rescue Hopefully, the controversial bits have now been removed? Thanks Graeme On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 22:55, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 04/01/2023 06:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > >

Re: [Tagging] Change emergency=lifeboat-station to water-rescue

Sorry, meant to include the link to the previous discussions: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-December/066606.html Thanks Graeme On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 16:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all & welcome back to the New Year! > > With Christmas over, &am

[Tagging] Change emergency=lifeboat-station to water-rescue

Hi all & welcome back to the New Year! With Christmas over, & the start of a new month, thought it must be time to revisit https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station Just prior to Christmas, I had suggested, following various suggestions, that this proposal

Re: [Tagging] Private ambulance / patient transport service

On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 at 22:33, Philip Barnes wrote: > That would be very misleading, these are not the normal public ambulance > service crewed by paramedics who you contact in an emergency. > > There is one locally who provide patient transport between hospitals for > the NHS. I would go with a co

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 00:21, Nate Wessel wrote: > Would anyone object to an attempt to better cross-reference and > distinguish these categories? > That's always a good idea! :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https:

[Tagging] Private ambulance / patient transport service

Tried asking about this on the Community but no response so I'll bring it out here. In the process of clearing Notes & found one referring to this business: https://moretongroup.com/ It’s a private business that does first aid training, but also provides ambulances to attend sporting events, does

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - High seas

Would this get around the problem of sea / oceans not being named e.g.: https://www.openstreetmap.org/query?lat=-28.0675&lon=153.4939#map=14/-28.0666/153.4835 , is part of the Coral Sea section of the Pacific Ocean, but comes up as nothing found. Thanks Graeme On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 12:58, Brian

Re: [Tagging] Foot / sidewalk access tagging

On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 09:33, Minh Nguyen wrote: > other places where cyclists are required to use sidewalks when present. & then you have places like where I am, where e-scooters are allowed to use marked bike lanes, riding at speeds up to 25kph (15mph?) on streets with a speed limit up to 50k

Re: [Tagging] Foot / sidewalk access tagging

On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 06:32, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > I recently came across an unexpected tagging combination and I would like > to understand how folks in various places would interpret this: > > highway= > foot=no > sidewalk=separate > > Would folks regard that as accurate data modelin

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Made some changes to the proposal to delete reference to helicopters & "rescue-related sites", which will probably both become their own proposals, but your thoughts & comments are still welcome! Thanks Graeme On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 at 10:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > &

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 at 18:45, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > 17 gru 2022, 01:19 od graemefi...@gmail.com: > > The other issue with the currently mapped info is that most of it appears > to have come from an unauthorised source. > > Can you link problematic ch

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Further thoughts re air rescue, please. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Air_rescue Thanks Graeme On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 at 11:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Possibly combine all existing tags under a new top tag > emergency=water_

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Possibly combine all existing tags under a new top tag emergency=water_rescue? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Replace_emergency=lifeboat_station_with_emergency=water_rescue Thoughts & comments please? Thanks Graeme __

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 17:55, Marc_marc wrote: > Le 16.12.22 à 08:30, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit : > > > In this case amenity=lifeboat is - I expect - used to map lifeboat > > stationing place, not lifeboat itself > > of course, like marina doesn't map boats but the mooring area > Yes

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 12:15, Andy Townsend wrote: > Most of the time, yes they can* - 8000 launches per year between 400 > lifeboats is on average 20 per year. If we take a guess at 8 hours per > launch, it's there 98% of the time. > By those numbers, yep, perfectly correct! But those 8000 lau

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 10:59, Andy Townsend wrote: > doesn't explain why "amenity=lifeboat" is "deprecated". Like it or not, > this is used exactly how you'd expect: > > https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#20/54.48811/-0.61310 > But as I've pointed out a couple of times before, by pol

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Voting cancelled to discuss issues. On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 23:53, Marc_marc wrote: > > it's a shame to have gone to the vote without resolving the 5 issues raised > & it's also a shame that they couldn't have been mentioned as unresolved when I said twice that it was ready to go to voting! Tha

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

No further comments or discussion so moved to voting: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Voting Thanks Graeme On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 at 12:59, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > I've made a minor change to the format of the possible tags to

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

22 01:54, Marc_marc wrote: > >> Le 06.12.22 à 00:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : > >>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-November/066540.html > >>> > >>> Are there any further comments that anybody would like to raise? &

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 00:57, Marc_marc wrote: > > - what are we mapping ? reading the description, this seems to be more > of a landuse=ermergency than mapping an emergency service i.e. where > you can go to get a service > The land-based location of emergency groups dedicated to the saving of l

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 20:54, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > Still does not resolve my problem with a water rescue station where there > is no boat. > > Before people ask again how that is possible - they might have their boats > mooring at changing > locations without a station, but the station is not dire

[Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Bringing this forward to the new month. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-November/066540.html Are there any further comments that anybody would like to raise? To sum-up, proposal is to: Approve emergency=lifeboat_station Deprecate emergency=marine_rescue & merge it's usages

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

In regard to mapping the location of a lifeboat, just noticed this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=6952187784#map=19/53.09914/5.94569 & the wiki for houseboats https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building=houseboat, states " Houseboats that are moving are not mappable in OSM". I thin

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

s > > Graeme > > > On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 09:35, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 19:05, Jez Nicholson >> wrote: >> >>> When the lifeboat is permanently moored at a particular location it is >>>

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Discussions on the Talk page mentioned groups such as these https://wsart.org.uk/, who assist Emergency Services (Police, Fire & Ambulance) with water search & rescue. Have mentioned them in the proposal as emergency_service=water Thanks Graeme On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 09:35, Graeme Fit

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 19:05, Jez Nicholson wrote: > When the lifeboat is permanently moored at a particular location it is > less transitory than a busso people can and do tag them. Not me > necessarily, but other mappers. > True, but can you guarantee that I can walk up to that spot "right

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 20:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Past discussion on burger vans etc lead to the understanding that if > something was, for the majority of the time, found at a certain location > then OSM should map it. > True, but part of the argument there was that the van had

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 19:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some ships and boats don't move much... as they are part of museums ... > On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 20:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > HMS Belfast in London is mapped as building=ship, for all intents is it > permanent

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 09:29, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Why not both? > Because a boat is a mobile feature, that we don't / can't map? e.g https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=349559642#map=19/-27.42815/153.08582 - we don't try to map the last bus in the middle row as #632 > Taking an example:

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 at 19:12, Jez Nicholson wrote: > > Is amenity=lifeboat actually wrong? > No, not really, but why have amenity=lifeboat & emergency=lifeboat (& sometimes emergency=marine_rescue) both tagged on the same feature? > The ones in the UK at least are actual lifeboats, showing whe

[Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Following our previous discussions, I've now raised a proposal to proceed with these changes: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station Please comment in whichever of the 3 places that you prefer, & I'll attempt to keep on top of all of them! :-) Thanks

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 02:36, stevea wrote: > this missive attempts to sketch the outline of a possible tagging scheme > for “utilities” in general. This would be a fairly rich (complex) scheme > if/as it were to encompass all of the sorts of “utility offices” there are > around the world. It w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 15:38, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > There are some ways to draw attention to a wiki talk page comment in > general. For example, if I add {{ping|Fizzie41}} to my comment, you'll > get a notification, including by e-mail if you've set that up. If your > comment concerns the veraci

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 12:36, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > > My question is for a unique company providing different services for > > assistance at home, but the goal is not healthcare. Probably > > office=home_aide could be good, I am questionning english native

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 11:58, Minh Nguyen wrote: > direct interested mappers to the wiki talk page, where hopefully others > can engage as necessary. > I do have some concerns about the talk pages though. Over time, I've asked quite a few questions on various talk pages, seeking clarification

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 11:43, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > Do you spot the problem here? > Because I do. > Certainly do! Going back to what I mentioned earlier: On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 08:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > So far, there have

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 08:45, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=gardener > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=cleaning The problem with using the various craft= tags, is that a lot of these sort of home-ass

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 08:05, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > However, "energy company" is not restricted to electrical energy. > Over here in Croatia, another popular energent is natural gas. > > In fact, many of "electrical energy providers" are also > "natural gas

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 05:58, Jmapb wrote: > I think office=home_aide might be good. > ("home_care" sounds like it's the home that's being cared for.) How about =home_assistance? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

ks Graeme On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 at 10:09, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > As emergency=lifeboat_station seems like it may be the most popular > option, I have now added details to the previously virtually blank page: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dlifeboat_station > &g

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

? Thanks Graeme On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 at 17:08, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10/11/22 14:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Another question! > > > > In a number of places e.g. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1nBt the Rescue > > unit has two buildings -

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 01:07, Cartographer10 via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I hope that the current proposal will for everybody. > It possibly will be one day, but at the moment, no, I don't think that we're yet ready to say "You *have* to post there". I recently started a dis

Re: [Tagging] amentiy=donation_centre?

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 at 10:37, António Madeira wrote: > I don't know of any charity which buys items to then resell or > distribute them, although that can happen in some obscure situation. > There's that international thing appearing again! In Australia, *every* (or at least the vast majority?)

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

Another question! In a number of places e.g. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1nBt the Rescue unit has two buildings - an admin base / radio room / lookout tower, usually overlooking the river mouth, together with a boatshed a bit further upriver e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/244664674 & https

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