Re: [Tagging] custom road ref shields

2014-12-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* johnw jo...@mac.com [2014-11-28 13:11 +0900]: On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: the basic scheme doesn't require anything new or unusual in route relation tagging, just care and consistency. I look forward to seeing his RFC page then ^_^ Well, the

Re: [Tagging] custom road ref shields

2014-12-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net [2014-11-27 11:09 -0500]: actually, specifying the shield with a URL for an svg file was an older approach. And, I should note, one that I consciously did not use. I believe it was Richard Weait who pointed out that grabbing an arbitrary image, chosen by

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-17 Thread Phil! Gold
* Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com [2014-06-17 16:43 +0200]: you can find big roundabouts with traffic lights in most of the big European cities, another reason (besides the controlling the motorized traffic) is to let pedestrians (and sometimes cyclists) cross. I know of a traffic

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of topographic areas with a name

2013-08-13 Thread Phil! Gold
* Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at [2013-08-09 07:28 +0200]: I also dislike the suggested special member roles: The positioning of the label depends on the font size, the free space, the map section and zoom level etc. and should therefore be determined by the renderer. I tend to think of

Re: [Tagging] railway=abandoned + highway=cycleway (was: [OSM-talk-be] Abandoned Railways / cycleways)

2013-04-19 Thread Phil! Gold
* Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com [2013-04-20 00:25 +1000]: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: a) If the trail meanders a little from side to side (where the old railway would have just gone straight), I match the way to the trail and trust

Re: [Tagging] railway=abandoned + highway=cycleway (was: [OSM-talk-be] Abandoned Railways / cycleways)

2013-04-18 Thread Phil! Gold
* Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com [2013-04-19 01:22 +1000]: 1) A single way: railway=abandoned | highway=cycleway | name=Blah Rail Trail | surface=unpaved (usually with a cycle route relation as well) This is basically how I tag them, with the following additions: a) If the trail meanders a

Re: [Tagging] Power proposals

2013-03-14 Thread Phil! Gold
* François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu [2013-03-14 18:52 +0100]: Foremost, areas must reflect land occupation. If 2 different operators' plants are contiguous in reality then areas must be contiguous too. Do you have any example which can illustrate such situation in the

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-28 Thread Phil! Gold
* Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is [2012-11-25 00:08 +]: The RFC process has started for my proposal to tag the age groups schools offer education for. More information is on the wiki page. The proposal is at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/age_group . I happen

Re: [Tagging] Tag ref on motorway_link

2012-10-30 Thread Phil! Gold
* Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com [2012-10-24 14:49 +0900]: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: using something like ref:unsigned=OH 315C to mean this road is part of Ohio state route 315C but the signs don't say so sounds perfectly sane to me.

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-04 Thread Phil! Gold
* David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com [2012-09-03 18:51 -0400]: In my part of the US, nearly every river is of the form the X River and I would expect to see it that way on maps, leaving out the the which is used in forming sentences but not generally considered part of the name. In Michigan

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Rails with trails

2012-07-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com [2012-07-03 17:22 +1000]: For the original question of how to tag a rail with trail (I've also heard the term railside trail), is it not sufficient to simply map the two ways separately? Example here: http://osm.org/go/uG4lkKxG?layers=C As I understand it,

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Rails with trails

2012-07-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk [2012-07-03 13:37 +0100]: Phil! Gold wrote: As I understand it, NE2 was looking for a tagging scheme that would allow for searches to find trails on a railway grade. That might not have the desired effect in all cases: http://www.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Rails with trails

2012-06-28 Thread Phil! Gold
* Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com [2012-06-27 12:59 -0400]: But another popular kind of rail trail, a rail with trail, cannot be found in this manner. [snip] Does anyone have any ideas for tagging? The simplest would be something like rail_with_trail=yes or maybe railway=adjacent. Either

Re: [Tagging] Turning circle with island or turning loop (was Re: (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-15 Thread Phil! Gold
* Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com [2012-05-15 14:11 +0200]: Now the only issue remaining is: how? Right now I see two solutions: 1) highway=turning_circle and turning_circle=island or traffic_calming=island 2) new tag like e.g. highway=turning_loop [snip] I would really like to get more

Re: [Tagging] OSMI layers in JOSM

2012-04-29 Thread Phil! Gold
* Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com [2012-04-25 10:28 +0200]: I'm trying to view the OSMI layers in JOSM. The all-knowing, all-seeing trash heap pointed me to this (german) article: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=9315 There it is recommended to use the following link in

Re: [Tagging] Route Relations and Special (Bannered) Routes

2012-03-14 Thread Phil! Gold
* Richard Weait rich...@weait.com [2012-03-13 10:30 -0400]: adding a tag for banner=Alternate/Business/Truck is my least-favourite option of those above. Why? increasing specificity on the network tag like network=US:US:Alt follows the original intent of the network tag. It also offers the

Re: [Tagging] Route Relations and Special (Bannered) Routes

2012-03-13 Thread Phil! Gold
* Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com [2012-03-11 22:30 -0400]: It also makes the most sense to put it in the ref tag. Otherwise there's inconsistency between an alternate signed as US 1 Alternate and one signed as US 1A (with the suffix in the shield). In each case I'll also use the modifier

[Tagging] Route Relations and Special (Bannered) Routes

2012-03-11 Thread Phil! Gold
I'd like to solicit some thoughts on the tagging for special routes (commonly known as bannered routes)[0]. In route relations, it's customary to separate the network and the reference number. How do or should special routes fit into that? I'm torn between three views and I'm not sure which of

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-21 Thread Phil! Gold
* John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com [2012-02-19 14:13 -0600]: I take it, then, that there are some watercourses tagged as streams, but named XXX River, and there are some watercourses tagged as rivers, but named XXX Stream or XXX Creek? It's what I've done, based on my understanding of the

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Phil! Gold
* Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com [2011-08-30 17:01 +0200]: Waiting for comments especially for the aspect, that you could apply this tag to all kind of settlement fractions including commercial and industrial (and of course mixed) areas. I guess the wording neighbourhood does

[Tagging] Use of place=suburb (was Re: RFC: place=neighbourhood)

2011-08-31 Thread Phil! Gold
* Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com [2011-08-31 14:33 +0200]: No, suburb is actually not necessarily outside the city (in OSM), it is used for central districts as well. I've often been confused by the suburb tag and maybe someone can clear it up for me. The tags place=city,

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Phil! Gold
* Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com [2011-08-31 08:50 -0400]: There's a third possibility - the unincorporated suburb or exurb that nevertheless has a defined boundary, since it's planned or controlled by one company. I think Columbia, Maryland is this way It is. Additionally, Columbia

Re: [Tagging] Tags for neighborhoods / subdivisions

2011-05-13 Thread Phil! Gold
* Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com [2011-05-10 23:27 -0400]: Either way I think we need to allow for admin_level or something similar to permit nesting of neighborhoods. I know, let's use relations! (Now I have two problems...) But seriously, what about a very simple contains relation? A given

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sidewalks as separate ways

2011-04-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* Ed Hillsman ehills...@tampabay.rr.com [2011-04-02 22:26 -0400]: With regard to routing, sidewalks on college campuses, in parks, and in cemeteries may be interior to a large area bounded by streets, and as a result some may not have an associated street to use for a name. I don't think

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sidewalk

2011-03-21 Thread Phil! Gold
* M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com [2011-03-21 18:03 +0100]: The main purpose of detailing sidewalks is IMHO to be able to add further details, which might be interesting for the users of the sidewalk. I think that one very good reason for adding sidewalks is simply to allow better

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-19 Thread Phil! Gold
* Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com [2011-01-19 15:17 +1100]: I suggest we investigate something like a general prominence=* tag, with values of 1-10. I wouldn't be opposed to this, but I keep thinking a two-tiered system like the Ranally City Rating System[0] might be a better approach. You'd

Re: [Tagging] Paper streets?

2010-10-22 Thread Phil! Gold
* Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net [2010-10-19 15:25 -0400]: tiger seems to have spots where there are streets that developers planned but never built. i see them from time to time. The problem there is that proposed roads have been recorded as actual roads. If people want to record

[Tagging] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Thread Phil! Gold
* Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net [2010-10-14 10:47 -0700]: I think you could largely sum up his criticisms in two broad headings: 1. US OSM contributors need to get their shit together 2. European maps don't look like American ones I'm trying to see what sort of consensus

Re: [Tagging] Layer=* tags disappearing

2010-10-12 Thread Phil! Gold
* M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com [2010-10-12 18:11 +0200]: Layer's range is from -5 to 5. How true is that these days? It's still in the JOSM presets, but a) I don't see any reason in principle that should be true, and my reading of the Mapnik rendering rules seems to indicate that

Re: [Tagging] Relation for saying x is attached to y?

2010-08-30 Thread Phil! Gold
* M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com [2010-08-30 17:40 +0200]: 2010/8/30 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: - these objects express the same thing as that object but in more detail (eg, one line representing a pair or more of train lines) in this actual example you don't

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-14 Thread Phil! Gold
* Jonas Minnberg sas...@gmail.com [2010-05-14 16:39 +0200]: What about bordering buildings - ie buldings sharing walls but having different addresses/uses ? Is it better to draw the as a single area or as separate but with shared nodes? I feel that separate ways that share nodes along the

Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Phil! Gold
* Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com [2010-05-14 18:29 +0200]: If you tag highway=footway with bike=yes then you don't make it exclusively for bikes. So if you tag a playground with baby=yes shouldn't that just mean that there are some baby specific toys there, and baby=no that there aren't any