[Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
Following recent discussion on talk-de I'm proposing a new place value for single settlements (free standing single building, often farm, outside settlement, max. 2 households). As I am German I'm not sure if I got the right term for this in English. My idea would be that this could be tagged place=single_settlement but feel free to propose better words for this. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
2010/4/5 ℳ∡ℝℸⅈℿ Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Following recent discussion on talk-de I'm proposing a new place value for single settlements (free standing single building, often farm, outside settlement, max. 2 households). As I am German I'm not sure if I got the right term for this in English. My idea would be that this could be tagged place=single_settlement but feel free to propose better words for this. I fully second this. Standartization of this tag is long overdue, and I think place=single_settlement would be just fine, as there are many different names for it in different countries (so generic common name for it would be very ok). Cheers, Peteris. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
2010/4/5 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com I think place=single_settlement would be just fine, as there are many different names for it in different countries (so generic common name for it would be very ok). yes, in German alone we have at least 4 words (1 generic and several specific according to what type of settlement it is). If we extend the topic of this post to place in general: I think we could also have another place-tag on the other end: for relatively big cities. This could be place=metropolis In Europe this will be cities over 1 Million inhabitants, in Asia, America or Africa it might be necessary to raise this number. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
On 6 April 2010 04:12, ℳ∡ℝℸⅈℿ Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Following recent discussion on talk-de I'm proposing a new place value for single settlements (free standing single building, often farm, outside settlement, max. 2 households). From Map Features wiki page: place=hamlet As defined by national/state/provincial government. Generally smaller than a village, just a few houses ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
2010/4/6 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com On 6 April 2010 04:12, ℳ∡ℝℸⅈℿ Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Following recent discussion on talk-de I'm proposing a new place value for single settlements (free standing single building, often farm, outside settlement, max. 2 households). From Map Features wiki page: place=hamlet As defined by national/state/provincial government. Generally smaller than a village, just a few houses I am aware about this. That's why I am asking for the scientific English term for single settlements (if it is not this). In German the word is Einzelsiedlung. This is not a hamlet (German Weiler, which is at least 3 households), but smaller. I also wrote this in the topic. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
2010/4/6 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com In the US, I am not aware of the concept of a place name for a pair of houses. just to make it clear: this is not about a pair of houses but about 1 to max. 2 households which is generally 1 single house. That could be a farm, but also other singular buildings outside of closed settlements (e.g. a mill, a single house, ...) cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
ℳ∡ℝℸⅈℿ Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2010/4/6 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com In the US, I am not aware of the concept of a place name for a pair of houses. just to make it clear: this is not about a pair of houses but about 1 to max. 2 households which is generally 1 single house. That could be a farm, but also other singular buildings outside of closed settlements (e.g. a mill, a single house, ...) OK - we don't have a word for that - it's just a house, or a farm. pgpFfmtDJuzgL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
On 6 April 2010 08:52, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: OK - we don't have a word for that - it's just a house, or a farm. Sure we do... building=[house|farm|yes] ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
2010/4/6 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com On 6 April 2010 08:52, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: OK - we don't have a word for that - it's just a house, or a farm. Sure we do... building=[house|farm|yes] yes, I know that you can tag it like this (I'd recommend additionally), but for certain kind of maps or evaluation (inhabited places) it is IMHO useful to have a place-tag for this as well (it can also be several buildings (due to outbuildings, garages, ...) that together form 1 place with 1-2 households. That's what we call single_settlement and it's a legal/geographic term for this form of settlement (besides hamlet, village). OK, finally I got the term: isolated_dwelling. Found it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlement_Hierarchy cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
created a proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/isolated_dwelling Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] New place value for single settlements (below hamlet)
On 4/5/10 6:33 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: ℳ∡ℝℸⅈℿ Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2010/4/6 John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com On 6 April 2010 04:12, ℳ∡ℝℸⅈℿ Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Following recent discussion on talk-de I'm proposing a new place value for single settlements (free standing single building, often farm, outside settlement, max. 2 households). From Map Features wiki page: place=hamlet As defined by national/state/provincial government. Generally smaller than a village, just a few houses I am aware about this. That's why I am asking for the scientific English term for single settlements (if it is not this). In German the word is Einzelsiedlung. This is not a hamlet (German Weiler, which is at least 3 households), but smaller. I also wrote this in the topic. In the US, I am not aware of the concept of a place name for a pair of houses. Where I am (New England), there is town and city, which are really the same thing but differ by form of government. Then within those there are either neighborhoods or villages, but those terms are loose because they tend not to have any legal/government standing. be careful about Town. the meaning of the term Town in NY state is distinctly different from what you describe above. in NY, outside of Cities and other incorporated entities (villages), the counties are tiled with Towns -- everything is in a town, no matter how rural. i would expect some definite state-to-state variation in what a Town is. richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
