Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-03 Thread Richard Mann
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Yes, I know rewriting a page at this stage isn't the Done Thing. So sue me. Wikifiddler, first class. ;) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/list

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
I've rewritten the page. Fair play to Richard M for the first attempt but, really, it made a potentially hugely useful, global tag seem like a parochial little thing for English/Welsh footpaths. And that really isn't the point of it. The page is at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Propose

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-03 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Alex Mauer wrote: > On 03/02/2011 05:01 PM, Richard Mann wrote: > >> I reckon the voting is running at about 24000&  a handful for, and a >> handful against. > > Oh, come on.  If you’re going to count every element tagged with > designation=* as a “vote for” you re

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread Alex Mauer
On 03/02/2011 05:01 PM, Richard Mann wrote: I reckon the voting is running at about 24000& a handful for, and a handful against. Oh, come on. If you’re going to count every element tagged with designation=* as a “vote for” you really ought to count every element *not* tagged with designati

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Tordanik wrote: >> I'm still not quite sure whether I understand what designation=* >> is supposed to do. > > It's to record the legal status, or designation, of a given object - whether > that object be a footpath, a waterway, or whatever

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tordanik wrote: > I'm still not quite sure whether I understand what designation=* > is supposed to do. It's to record the legal status, or designation, of a given object - whether that object be a footpath, a waterway, or whatever. Having now looked at the wiki voting page I'm afraid the descri

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 01.03.2011 20:04, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> There is already 2 alternative ways to tag these (path and >> foot/cycle/bridleway), I feel we don't need a third one. > > Do try and keep up. This is not a third way of tagging. This is _additional_ > information that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/2 Richard Fairhurst : > M?rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> it might also help to use namespaces for the values, like >> "uk:public_bridleway" >> instead of "public_bridleway" > > So I presume you're planning to do that for other tags whose meaning varies > by country, like highway=uk:trunk, highw

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
M?rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > it might also help to use namespaces for the values, like > "uk:public_bridleway" > instead of "public_bridleway" So I presume you're planning to do that for other tags whose meaning varies by country, like highway=uk:trunk, highway=de:motorway... OSM. For People Who

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/2 Markus Lindholm : > My proposal is simply to use an other key, and once a better name for > the key is agreed upon to change the existing tags to use the new key it might also help to use namespaces for the values, like "uk:public_bridleway" instead of "public_bridleway" cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread Markus Lindholm
On 1 March 2011 21:47, Richard Mann wrote: > You'all are welcome to: > > 1) Make another proposal > 2) Vote yes or no to the proposal as it stands > > It's not appropriate to fine-tune the proposal during the voting stage > - you either approve or oppose it as it stands. > > If there's an appropri

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/1 Richard Mann : > You'all are welcome to: > > 1) Make another proposal > 2) Vote yes or no to the proposal as it stands > > It's not appropriate to fine-tune the proposal during the voting stage > - you either approve or oppose it as it stands. Comments were requested 2009-06-10. It took

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:47:04 + > Richard Mann wrote: > >> If there's an appropriate majority after 2 weeks, I'll move it to >> "approved". Otherwise we'll just carry on waiting for a better idea >> (it might be a long wait). > > Appropria

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Alex Mauer
On 03/01/2011 03:14 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: Appropriate majority on the wiki of how many votes? With the tagging numbers being in their thousands, how will you decide on an appropriate number? Well, the wiki says “8 unanimous approval votes or 15 total votes with a majority approval” But t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:47:04 + Richard Mann wrote: > If there's an appropriate majority after 2 weeks, I'll move it to > "approved". Otherwise we'll just carry on waiting for a better idea > (it might be a long wait). Appropriate majority on the wiki of how many votes? With the tagging number

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Mann
You'all are welcome to: 1) Make another proposal 2) Vote yes or no to the proposal as it stands It's not appropriate to fine-tune the proposal during the voting stage - you either approve or oppose it as it stands. If there's an appropriate majority after 2 weeks, I'll move it to "approved". Oth

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:51:22 -0800 (PST) Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Markus Lindholm wrote: > > If this tag designation is about formal status in the UK > > It isn't. It's about formal status, full stop. You could just as > easily use it to record that a European waterway is UNECE Class Vb. > > R

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Markus Lindholm
On 1 March 2011 20:51, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Markus Lindholm wrote: >> If this tag designation is about formal status in the UK > > It isn't. It's about formal status, full stop. You could just as easily use > it to record that a European waterway is UNECE Class Vb. Well, the wiki certainly

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Markus Lindholm wrote: > If this tag designation is about formal status in the UK It isn't. It's about formal status, full stop. You could just as easily use it to record that a European waterway is UNECE Class Vb. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Feat

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Markus Lindholm
On 1 March 2011 20:04, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> There is already 2 alternative ways to tag these (path and >> foot/cycle/bridleway), I feel we don't need a third one. > > Do try and keep up. This is not a third way of tagging. This is _additional_ > information that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > There is already 2 alternative ways to tag these (path and > foot/cycle/bridleway), I feel we don't need a third one. Do try and keep up. This is not a third way of tagging. This is _additional_ information that can be used with either existing scheme. There is no oth

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/1 Alex Mauer : > For better or worse, in Germany it looks like they’re one and the same > thing: a route’s official classification is basically “officially designated > for [xxx] traffic”.  There’s nothing like the UK’s “Restricted Byway” > classification. There is tracks for instance, wh

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Alex Mauer
On 03/01/2011 11:30 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: do we really need a duplication in designation? Or is there some details that I don't get? As I understand it, while there is some overlap (especially in Germany) it’s not exactly a duplicate of the access=designated tag. Designation=* is us

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/1 Richard Mann : > 24000 uses so far, so I guess it's time to put it to a vote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Designation The RFC is from 2009, IMHO there is an established alternative for this: foot=designated bicycle=designated horse=designated You count 24000

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Chris Hill
On 01/03/11 17:12, Richard Mann wrote: 24000 uses so far, so I guess it's time to put it to a vote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Designation Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Mann
24000 uses so far, so I guess it's time to put it to a vote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Designation Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging