Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 15:46, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Anthony wrote: > > I'm not aware of any hyphens which are converted into underscores, let > alone > > that this is "predominantly" the case. And even if it is "predominantly" > > man_made=pier > power=sub_sta

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: >> It is for this reason that I prefer underscores myself. >> >> So service=drive_through it is? > > I think so. > > Could we also start recording deprecated synonyms on the wik

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > It is for this reason that I prefer underscores myself. > > So service=drive_through it is? I think so. Could we also start recording deprecated synonyms on the wiki? In this case, service=drive-through and service=drive_thru should

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 10/18/10 7:52 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: It is for this reason that I prefer underscores myself. So service=drive_through it is? that would certainly be my preference. richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Anthony wrote: >> I'm not aware of any hyphens which are converted into underscores, let alone >> that this is "predominantly" the case.  And even if it is "predominantly" > > man_made=pier > power=sub_statio

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Anthony wrote: > I'm not aware of any hyphens which are converted into underscores, let alone > that this is "predominantly" the case.  And even if it is "predominantly" man_made=pier power=sub_station A key or a value don't have to be correct grammatical English

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:04 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/10/17 Richard Weait : >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:37 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >>> 2010/10/17 Eugene Alvin Villar : > >> This >> >> http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22drive+through%22%2C+%22drive-through%22 >> >> suggests

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010/10/17 Richard Weait : > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:37 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> 2010/10/17 Eugene Alvin Villar : > This > > http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22drive+through%22%2C+%22drive-through%22 > > suggests the popular form is not hyphenated, but two words. OK, interesting, ev

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 17/10/2010 11:40, Richard Weait wrote: And if service=drive_thru is to be revised, perhaps drive_thru=yes/no from Map Features should follow the same plan. Also redirecting drive_thru=yes to drive_in seems very wrong. A drive through and a drive in are very different in my experience. http

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 10/17/2010 05:40 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > Also redirecting drive_thru=yes to drive_in seems very wrong. A drive > through and a drive in are very different in my experience. Then there's Sonic, which is a drive-in chain where some locations also have a drive-through. signature.asc Descri

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:37 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/10/17 Eugene Alvin Villar : >> be shortened. But it seems that the question about hyphen vs. >> underscore is not resolved? > > > IMHO it should be "drive-through" and not "drive_through", as the > latter is the OSM-form of "drive

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010/10/17 Eugene Alvin Villar : > be shortened. But it seems that the question about hyphen vs. > underscore is not resolved? IMHO it should be "drive-through" and not "drive_through", as the latter is the OSM-form of "drive through" and AFAIK here it is one term in English and not two. cheers,

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

Hello, Going back to this old discussion, which is better: service=drive_through or service=drive-through? The hyphenated version is in the Wiki: , but some people think that we should stick to underscores just like most other OSM tag

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 25 April 2010 05:40, Bill Ricker wrote: > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Ed Hillsman > wrote: >> >> Actually, a local fast-food chain out in Portland changed its policy about >> a year ago and now welcomes (and markets to) bicyclists to use its >> drive-through lanes. > > Portland is, well,

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Ed Hillsman wrote: > Actually, a local fast-food chain out in Portland changed its policy about > a year ago and now welcomes (and markets to) bicyclists to use its > drive-through lanes. Portland is, well, different. Let's hope we can learn to share the road so

[Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 11 April 2010 17:49:15 BST 1010, John Smith gmail.com> wrote: >On 12 April 2010 02:33, Anthony wrote: >> Now, if we really want to start a flame war, maybe I should ask whether or >> not to include "bicycle=no" :). > >While your comment is tongue in cheek, most drive throughs have >height/w

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Alex Mauer wrote: > On 04/12/2010 12:48 PM, Anthony wrote: > > Yeah, that's what I was quoting above. However, with drive-thrus (at > least > > here in Florida), the public does not have any right of access > whatsoever. > > Really? So you can’t actually use a d

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

Ulf Lamping writes: > Am 12.04.2010 19:54, schrieb Anthony: > >> Well, I now see that there are a few. I still don't understand why, >> though, and I don't think we should keep doing something which makes no >> sense just because we've done it in the past. > > It's not (only) because we've done

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

John Smith writes: > On 13 April 2010 06:02, Matthias Julius wrote: >> maxheight + maxwidth and maybe a new trailer=no? > > I was hesitant to use the word 'trailer' since it means different > things in different variations of English, and it's not the only thing > that could be towed, things lik

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 04/12/2010 12:48 PM, Anthony wrote: > Yeah, that's what I was quoting above. However, with drive-thrus (at least > here in Florida), the public does not have any right of access whatsoever. Really? So you can’t actually use a drive-thru in Florida? That seems kind of silly. Why would anyone

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 04/12/2010 03:13 PM, Anthony wrote: > And I still don't like access=destination. If access=destination means "a > privately owned road which should only be used for access to a building, > motorway service station, beach, campsite, industrial estate, business park, > etc" then access=destinatio

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 13 April 2010 06:12, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Don't know if that's true, but if I see how many complaints there are > about the ÖPNV-Karte, which ist just one word, probably introducing > more German will not facilitate OSM-development in the rest of the > world ;-) I wasn't actually serio

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 13 April 2010 06:02, Matthias Julius wrote: > maxheight + maxwidth and maybe a new trailer=no? I was hesitant to use the word 'trailer' since it means different things in different variations of English, and it's not the only thing that could be towed, things like caravans also have multiple m

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Matthias Julius wrote: > Eugene Alvin Villar writes: > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Pieren wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anthony wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I have indeed tagged a couple of these, using "highway=service, > >>> service=driv

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010/4/12 Anthony : > No.  There are probably more OSMers that know basic English than OSMers that > know basic German.  And we all know where the hyphen key is. Don't know if that's true, but if I see how many complaints there are about the ÖPNV-Karte, which ist just one word, probably introducin

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

John Smith writes: > On 12 April 2010 02:33, Anthony wrote: >> Now, if we really want to start a flame war, maybe I should ask whether or >> not to include "bicycle=no" :). > > While your comment is tongue in cheek, most drive throughs have > height/width restrictions and usually don't allow tow

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

Eugene Alvin Villar writes: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Pieren wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anthony wrote: >> >>> >>> I have indeed tagged a couple of these, using "highway=service, >>> service=drive-through, access=private, oneway=yes". >>> >>> >> highway=service + onewa

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 13 April 2010 04:32, Anthony wrote: > Depends on the language. If you have a COBOL background you might just be > tempted to convert underscores to hyphens :). I was just explaining how it made sense, that is it's not written english, but more akin to a programming language with key words and

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

Am 12.04.2010 19:54, schrieb Anthony: > Well, I now see that there are a few. I still don't understand why, > though, and I don't think we should keep doing something which makes no > sense just because we've done it in the past. It's not (only) because we've done it in the past, it's just a lot

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:08 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 13 April 2010 03:54, Anthony wrote: > > Well, I now see that there are a few. I still don't understand why, > though, > > and I don't think we should keep doing something which makes no sense > just > > because we've done it in the past. >

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 13 April 2010 03:54, Anthony wrote: > Well, I now see that there are a few. I still don't understand why, though, > and I don't think we should keep doing something which makes no sense just > because we've done it in the past. It makes perfect sense if you come from a programming point of vi

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 13 April 2010 03:48, Anthony wrote: > However, with drive-thrus (at least here in Florida), the public does not > have any right of access whatsoever. In NSW, Australia everyone has the right to come and knock on your door, it's only trespassing if you ask them to leave and they refuse. I'm g

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM, John Smith wrote: > >> On 12 April 2010 22:44, Anthony wrote: >> >> If you want to be consistent, use underscores not hyphens, eg >> >> service=drive_through >> > >> > I still vote for drive-through (or, alternat

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Pieren wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Anthony wrote: > >> The problem with access=destination is for roads where "the public has a >> right of access". >> >> > I'm not sure we have the same understanding of "access=destination". On the > wiki, it says:

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:41 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 12 April 2010 22:44, Anthony wrote: > >> If you want to be consistent, use underscores not hyphens, eg > >> service=drive_through > > > > I still vote for drive-through (or, alternatively, drive-thru). I've > never > > seen anyone call one

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 12 April 2010 22:44, Anthony wrote: >> If you want to be consistent, use underscores not hyphens, eg >> service=drive_through > > I still vote for drive-through (or, alternatively, drive-thru). I've never > seen anyone call one a drive_through. I see no value in consistency if it > means bein

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Anthony wrote: > The problem with access=destination is for roads where "the public has a > right of access". > > I'm not sure we have the same understanding of "access=destination". On the wiki, it says: *The public has right of access only if this is the only r

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:54 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 12 April 2010 13:49, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > Since a couple of people mentioned that service=drive-through is a good > > value, then I'd go for this value too for consistency. > > If you want to be consistent, use underscores not hyp

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > An explicit tag would be better since routers can then let the user filter > for fast food restaurants that have drive-throughs and then route them to > the selected drive-through entrance appropriately. > > It's not incompatible with

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 12 April 2010 13:49, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Since a couple of people mentioned that service=drive-through is a good > value, then I'd go for this value too for consistency. If you want to be consistent, use underscores not hyphens, eg service=drive_through __

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: > > > > For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at > fast > > food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru > > I've done similar, though

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Pieren wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anthony wrote: > >> >> I have indeed tagged a couple of these, using "highway=service, >> service=drive-through, access=private, oneway=yes". >> >> > highway=service + oneway=yes + access=destination > > Pieren >

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast > food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru I've done similar, though I've used "service=drivethru". Adding oneway=yes can't hurt. Would b

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 12 April 2010 02:33, Anthony wrote: > Now, if we really want to start a flame war, maybe I should ask whether or > not to include "bicycle=no" :). While your comment is tongue in cheek, most drive throughs have height/width restrictions and usually don't allow towed vehicles to be taken throug

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 12 April 2010 01:56, Anthony wrote: > > In my experience the oneway is usually explicit, as there are arrows on > the > > ground. > > junction=roundabout implies oneway=yes, which is why you don't need to > add a oneway tag as well. > Ah,

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 12 April 2010 01:56, Anthony wrote: > In my experience the oneway is usually explicit, as there are arrows on the > ground. junction=roundabout implies oneway=yes, which is why you don't need to add a oneway tag as well. ___ Tagging mailing list Tag

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anthony wrote: > > I have indeed tagged a couple of these, using "highway=service, > service=drive-through, access=private, oneway=yes". > > highway=service + oneway=yes + access=destination Pieren ___ Tagging mailing l

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 12 April 2010 01:36, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at > fast > > food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and > sometimes > > also oneway=yes since it

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

On 12 April 2010 01:36, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast > food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and sometimes > also oneway=yes since it seems that the implicit vs. explicit tags debate is No idea if t

[Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and sometimes also oneway=yes since it seems that the implicit vs. explicit tags debate is not yet done). Does anybody think that this is a good idea that can be