Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-21 Thread johnw
On Mar 21, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-20 19:24 GMT+01:00 Kytömaa Lauri lauri.kyto...@aalto.fi: They (civil features) don't exist to produce income (even if they somewhat do) so the commerce part is missing, but they exist because the society

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-18 17:31 GMT+01:00 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com: 4) interestingly, landuse=institution is not used at all, but landuse=institutional a bit (68 uses) yes, seems more consistent with the rest of the tags (e.g. we don't use landuse=commerce but commercial) cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-20 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
johnw wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: there is a lot of stuff that isn't yet covered by the well introduced landuses, including: And somebody mentioned landuse=institutional at 68 uses. There's 332 cases of landuse=civil, which we have used for areas and plots used for state or municipality

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-20 19:24 GMT+01:00 Kytömaa Lauri lauri.kyto...@aalto.fi: And somebody mentioned landuse=institutional at 68 uses. There's 332 cases of landuse=civil, which we have used for areas and plots used for state or municipality functions that don't fit in the industrial or commercial uses.

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-18 Thread johnw
On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-16 23:11 GMT+01:00 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: I'd like to clarify what I said before that landuse=civic_admin would be useful. It would be useful for tagging the only the compounds where

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-18 Thread Brad Neuhauser
It might be good to see if any of these ideas are in use, despite lack of documentation. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/landuse A couple potentially useful tags I noticed scanning through the list of landuse=* values were 1) landuse=religious has 1100 uses 2) landuse=school and

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-17 Thread johnw
Martin - I realized that somewhere, I got confused about landuse=retail/residential/ etc and amenity=school I started thinking there was landuse=school landuse=hospital when there isn't. So my previous comments probably made no sense. I'm really sorry about that. You are exactly right

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-16 23:11 GMT+01:00 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: I'd like to clarify what I said before that landuse=civic_admin would be useful. It would be useful for tagging the only the compounds where government offices are located (townhall, courthouse, etc.). I am not suggesting that

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17/mar/2014 um 11:51 schrieb johnw jo...@mac.com: So, now that I understand that the building type should be an amenity=, and the basic amenity tag can also show landuse, I will start to think about a few new amenity=tags for civic buildings. actually the building type goes

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17/mar/2014 um 11:51 schrieb johnw jo...@mac.com: But for building complexes that include the townhall, would you still default to commerical? isn't there a need for a tag like landuse=institutional or something? well, commercial was suggested for areas with offices on them, out of

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 16/mar/2014 um 02:20 schrieb johnw jo...@mac.com: I am looking for a tag to define the area the townhall building sits on what about amenity=townhall ? That's how we do it for schools, universities etc. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-16 Thread Tod Fitch
What about for the area where the town hall, city administration buildings (offices for building and safety, parks and recreation, etc.), public safety (police and fire headquarters) and a county court building are located in my city. They are all on one landscaped area with buildings scattered

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-16 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: They all sound much like offices (landuse=commercial) to me. Ownership has nothing to do with land use. In this case, the city council happen to be the users of the property, but if they need to downsize for whatever

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
At least in the USA, courthouses generally contain other types of government offices in addition to courtrooms and related judicial offices, particularly county courthouses. In some less-populated areas, the courthouse may be the only governmental building in the jurisdiction. On March 15,

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-16 Thread Colin Smale
Interesting! That is more generic than simply civic_admin - one would not expect the primary land use of a school or a hospital to be administration. When/to whom is this classification significant? Colin On 2014-03-16 19:49, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:42 PM,

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-16 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I'd like to clarify what I said before that landuse=civic_admin would be useful. It would be useful for tagging the only the compounds where government offices are located (townhall, courthouse, etc.). I am not suggesting that schools and hospitals would use the same landuse=civic_admin tag.

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-15 Thread Colin Smale
Civil administration is surely hardly a land use. A council office is no different to any other office. I suggest looking at planning zones and their designations as a reference. Typically classifications like residential, retail, commercial, industrial and agricultural are seen, and changing

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-15 Thread johnw
On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I'd consider neither courthouses nor government buildings administration. Federal buildings in the US are the equivalent to branch offices of the US government - basically national hall - they are very far apart,

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=civic_admin

2014-03-13 Thread Satoshi IIDA
+1 to define landuse=civic_admin. It is very helpful to represent the outline when using type=site relation. Especially for more than 2 amenities shares 1 landuse. e.g. in the case of 2 schools (junior high high school) is in 1 landuse, in Japan. I think they must be represent as type=site