Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-09-01 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
building=livestock + livestock=* would be fine, especially if the building doesn't look specifically designed for one type of animal But for goats you might consider building=goat_barn or building=goat_shed, depending on how large and solidly it is constructed. In some climates goat's only need a

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-09-01 Thread mr.moehr...@gmx.net
Dear Community, thank you for your comments. I would like to try to summarise the discussion so far: - one group went of into a discussion on the different forms of stables for pigs showing us the complexity of farm buildings and also the complexity of wording - commentators generally preferred

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-30 Thread ET Commands
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 08:31:25 -0400 From: "Nita S." To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables) Around here those are called poll-barns. They are usually constructed with

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-30 Thread Nita S.
Around here those are called poll-barns. They are usually constructed with utility poles ( or similar ) a roof truss system, and corrugated/galvanized metal sheets. They cover farm equipment, feed storage, and sometimes animals. On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 9:02 AM Paul Allen wrote: > > > On Wed, 28

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-29 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 23:35, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 01:02, Paul Allen wrote: > > more happy pigs to be found here (supposedly) >>> https://www.naturalpigfarming.com/low%20res%2060/IMG_1385.jpg >>> >> >> And that is a pig pen. But, according to some, also a pig

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Warin
On 29/08/19 09:45, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Re: > "The best I could come up with was landuse=farmland + produce=live_animal + animal=chicken" It's more common to use landuse=farmyard for poultry farms, and if you use produce=* it's more common to specify eggs, meat or live_animal=* depending on

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Re: > "The best I could come up with was landuse=farmland + produce=live_animal + animal=chicken" It's more common to use landuse=farmyard for poultry farms, and if you use produce=* it's more common to specify eggs, meat or live_animal=* depending on what is sold. To specify that the farmyard

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. Aug 2019, at 00:34, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > The preferences range from free-range chickens >

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 01:02, Paul Allen wrote: > > >> https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/pigs-are-seen-in-a-pigsty-at-a-farm-in-pluduno-western-france-on-2-picture-id465455096 >> > > As far as I can tell, that's classes as a piggery in British English. And > since it's far more common > than

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 15:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > With regard to pig sty referring to an outdoor enclosure: the dictionary > says it can mean both, a small building or outside area where pigs are > kept. This is similar to German where, AFAIK, the outdoor areas associated > with an

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Aug 2019, at 14:40, Paul Allen wrote: > > According to google translate, it's "pig flats," but I suspect it's being > literal rather > than giving the equivalent English term. I'd probably map it as > building=piggery + > levels=n. maybe there isn’t an English

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 13:05, Peter Elderson wrote: > Pig ark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb4wTc79jY8 > I wish you hadn't said that. It forced me to do some googling. Apparently, a pig sty isn't necessarily a building but is more usually an enclosure. Essentially it's a synonym for a

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Peter Elderson
Pig ark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb4wTc79jY8 Nederland has "varkensflats" ie multi-storey "appartment buildings" for pigs. Wouldn't know a proper term for that in English though. I've seen it translated as "pig tower", but that term googles to https://images.app.goo.gl/WMeG3kychr7kokw7A

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Aug 2019, at 13:26, Paul Allen wrote: > > If he were to propose some other value (I can't think of one) for a generic > livestock-holding > building then I would have less reason to object to the proposal. But I > probably would still > object - we have 24,000

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 08:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 27. Aug 2019, at 23:00, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > Oh, and you say that a sty is for pigs (correct) and a sty is for cows > (incorrect) > > probably just a copy +paste problem, and should have been cowshed > Yeah, that was my

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Aug 2019, at 23:00, Paul Allen wrote: > > Oh, and you say that a sty is for pigs (correct) and a sty is for cows > (incorrect) probably just a copy +paste problem, and should have been cowshed > > Introduce a new value for building that means "building for

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-27 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 21:39, mr.moehritz--- via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I would like to propose a new tagging-scheme for stables that would be > more flexible. > More confused? Yes. Less precise? Yes. More flexible? A little, but not so flexible as just mapping all

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I disagree with proposal to replace building=sty with building=stable + animal=pig building=sty tagging seems clearly preferable to me And wildcard deprecations like "Deprecate building=sty, building=sty and any therelike" make me dislike this proposal even more. 27 Aug 2019, 22:37 by

[Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

2019-08-27 Thread mr.moehritz--- via Tagging
Hi, I would like to propose a new tagging-scheme for stables that would be more flexible. Please find my first draft here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Improving_Stables I would be happy for any comments Mo ___ Tagging