Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-06-10 Thread johnw
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > A > hook wouldn't be very secure. The double hook in the picture would only let the dog off if the leash handle were opened and pulled upwards. Which is not really gonna happen with a dog. They did have some spring, closing hooks, but

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-06-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 12:42 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > Am 10.06.2015 um 11:01 schrieb p...@trigpoint.me.uk: > > >> I prefer leash_anchor over lead_hook because it is more generic and easier > >> to understand. > > Leash is AE, lead is BE. > > > thanks for pointing this out. Unf

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-06-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 10.06.2015 um 11:01 schrieb p...@trigpoint.me.uk: >> I prefer leash_anchor over lead_hook because it is more generic and easier >> to understand. > Leash is AE, lead is BE. thanks for pointing this out. Unfortunately, lead is also a material (Pb), an indication, a clue, etc while leash i

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-06-10 Thread phil
On Wed Jun 10 09:32:26 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I prefer leash_anchor over lead_hook because it is more generic and easier > to understand. > Leash is AE, lead is BE. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-06-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-10 10:03 GMT+02:00 johnw : > > They are made by a company called sunpole, and I have been seeing them > installed at a lot of newer buildings all over my region lately, from > stores to service areas on the tollway. > > some are wall mounted, others on prefab poles, like in the picture. >

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-06-10 Thread johnw
> > > tie-off points for leashes to leave a dog unattended for a short time Today I was out biking and I found one of the hooks for dog leashes. The name used on the pole was “lead hook”. It was for leaving your dog outside a convenience store while you went in to get a drink on your dog wa

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-27 Thread johnw
The supermarket chain in my region (Joyful Honda) has carts for pets, and also a pet boarding area (a kennel to check your poodle into while you shop). this is a single large store. So we’re talking about pet “sitting” as opposed to pet boarding (like a pet hotel). This is beyond the tie-off

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-27 Thread Warin
The thread has diversified greatly... (as is normal... the thread subject (pet relief Areas) refers to an area .. where 'pets' leave excrement. There is also following discussion on 'hitching racks' (hitching rails or posts) = a bar or post where animal leads can be secured, pet off lead exer

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 27.05.2015 um 01:16 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > And more parking: > > trolley_parking (near supermarkets) > pram_parking > Umbrella > coat an ashtray would be cigarette parking? cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-26 Thread Marc Gemis
> >> >> > The function is akin to car parking and bicycle parking. Sticking with > that theme, we'd get dog parking and horse parking. A sign labelled 'dog > park' tagged as dog parking has obvious links but the to tag a dog park > sign with 'hitching rail' breaks the similarity - a similarity that

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-26 Thread Marc Gemis
No, it's about (e.g.) a metal bar outside a shop where a dog chained while the owner is inside. Mike posted some pictures earlier on. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I have not followed this discussion so must ask, is this dog relief area a > place where dogs and other p

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-26 Thread Warin
On 27/05/2015 9:16 AM, pmailkeey . wrote: And more parking: trolley_parking (near supermarkets) pram_parking Umbrella coat And anything else we might need to park. Wheelchairs, mobility scooter, motorbikes... You do not park a horse! Nor a dog. _

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-26 Thread Dave Swarthout
I have not followed this discussion so must ask, is this dog relief area a place where dogs and other pets can leave excrement? On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 26/05/2015 3:23 PM, Marc Gemis w

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 26/05/2015 3:23 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > based on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Animal > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Bryce Nesbitt > wrote: > >> While the names are confusing, the concepts seem to be: >> >>

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-26 Thread pmailkeey .
And more parking: trolley_parking (near supermarkets) pram_parking Umbrella coat And anything else we might need to park. Wheelchairs, mobility scooter, motorbikes... -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copelan

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-26 Thread pmailkeey .
On 26 May 2015 at 07:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 26/05/2015 3:23 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > based on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Animal > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Bryce Nesbitt > wrote: > >> While the names are confusing, the concepts seem to be: >> >> 1) Hitc

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-25 Thread Warin
On 26/05/2015 3:23 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: based on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Animal On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Bryce Nesbitt > wrote: While the names are confusing, the concepts seem to be: 1) Hitching racks for temporarily restraining a dog.

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-25 Thread Marc Gemis
based on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Animal On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > While the names are confusing, the concepts seem to be: > > 1) Hitching racks for temporarily restraining a dog. > no tag yet > 2) A place for unleashed dog play and socialization. > le

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
While the names are confusing, the concepts seem to be: 1) Hitching racks for temporarily restraining a dog. 2) A place for unleashed dog play and socialization. 3) Place to obtain dog waste bags. 4) Pet service areas, including a dedicated place for pets to defecate, possibly indoors. This is no

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-25 Thread John Eldredge
We will need to use different tags for the two concepts, however. On May 25, 2015 3:43:47 PM "pmailkeey ." wrote: On 25 May 2015 at 19:32, John Eldredge wrote: > In the USA, a "dog park" is an area of a public park, often enclosed by > a fence, where you are allowed to play with your dog

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-25 Thread pmailkeey .
On 25 May 2015 at 19:32, John Eldredge wrote: > In the USA, a "dog park" is an area of a public park, often enclosed by > a fence, where you are allowed to play with your dog off-leash. In other > sections of the park, or in an entire park if no section is designated as a > dog park, you are li

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-25 Thread John Eldredge
In the USA, a "dog park" is an area of a public park, often enclosed by a fence, where you are allowed to play with your dog off-leash. In other sections of the park, or in an entire park if no section is designated as a dog park, you are likely to be cited and fined for letting your dog run fre

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-25 Thread pmailkeey .
We'll be moving on to 'dog parks' next. That's places to park your dog (outside) while you visit a shop, for instance. It seems they do this in Rome - for a start. -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here's another example of this type of feature: http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2014/04/16/brisbane-airport-opens-australias-first-assistance-animals-facility/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-19 Thread Warin
On 19/05/2015 8:20 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 19.05.2015 um 07:32 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt >: A dog park is a place to play with a pet, probably off leash. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Ddog_park A pet relief area is a toilet. Different f

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 19.05.2015 um 07:32 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > A dog park is a place to play with a pet, probably off leash. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Ddog_park > A pet relief area is a toilet. > Different feature. OK, from my ignorant perspective also dog parks seemed like hu

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-18 Thread johnw
> On May 19, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > Am 18.05.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt >: > >> Note 1: >> I'd rather duck tag this as an "amenity=pet_reli

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Am 18.05.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > *Note 1:* > I'd rather duck tag this as an "*amenity=pet_relief_area / > dog_facilities=yes / cat_facilities=no*", but I have long since come to > the conclu

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 18.05.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > Note 1: > I'd rather duck tag this as an "amenity=pet_relief_area / dog_facilities=yes > / cat_facilities=no", but I have long since come to the conclusion that > tagging for the current rendering is necessary. around here there is leisu

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, John Willis wrote: > Since so may people in Japan travel with small dogs, most parking areas and many service areas have "pet areas" (I think they are called), where you can let your dog out of the car and walk them or let them deficate. This is not an enclosed sp

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
From my experience, rest areas along the US Interstate Highway system (motorways in OSM terms) usually have a designated area for this, generally on the opposite side of the parking lot from the building holding human restrooms, so that there is a reduced risk of stepping in a pet dropping for t

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-15 Thread John Willis
Since so may people in Japan travel with small dogs, most parking areas and many service areas have "pet areas" (I think they are called), where you can let your dog out of the car and walk them or let them deficate. This is not an enclosed space - there are no fences or facilities. They are t

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
These stations are in facilities such as airports, and they are open to whatever animal needs them: pets, service dogs, and unruly children as appropriate. Many of them are indoors. Since they are likely to include access to dog waste bags, they could be a subtag under vending. Ugh. _

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-14 Thread Warin
On 15/05/2015 10:11 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The stations I'm talking about are often indoors. See the linked PDF in the original message. That document applies to 'service animals' .. such as guide dogs for the blind. Those are specific... not the general 'pet' as in the subject line. For exa

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The stations I'm talking about are often indoors. See the linked PDF in the original message. For example they may be in an international transit zone in an airport where neither the passenger nor the animal may leave to access the outside. These definitely do not double as cricket pitches. __

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-14 Thread Warin
On 15/05/2015 5:14 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: How might we tag "Pet Relief Areas" http://opendoorsnfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ReliefGuideRev.pdf This is not: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:vending%3Dexcrement_bags or http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddog_bin or d

[Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
How might we tag "Pet Relief Areas" http://opendoorsnfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ReliefGuideRev.pdf This is not: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:vending%3Dexcrement_bags or http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddog_bin or dog_waste_bin or a variety of other tags, thoug