Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-17 Thread antony.king
I've used 'smell' on the proposal; I think more people will know that word!

As an aside, there's a playground viewer app here:

http://ant.homelinux.net/maps/index.html

which shows (as blue icons) any playgrounds created with the new
schema. It's experimental at the moment, working with a snapshot of
planet from last week. It runs on my mighty 400MHz Via C3 box, so
occasionally the database server runs out of steam, especially when
viewing large areas - be patient! username/passwd for that page is
map/mrmappy

I notice that there are a few playgrounds with the new schema popping
up; I think this will become a really useful resource for parents,
given a little time and a bit more coding.

All the best,

Antony.

On 16 May 2010 02:46, Bill Ricker  wrote:
> re sensory=? to smell?
> Perhaps the word you want is Olfactory ?
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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-15 Thread Bill Ricker
re sensory=? to smell?
Perhaps the word you want is Olfactory ?

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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread antony.king
My view was that baby=yes was shorthand for minage=0, maxage=about 4 -
more a recommendation of age appropriateness than a hard limit. Also
it was intended for the equipment rather than the whole play area -
though in the unlikely case of an entire play area being for babies
there wouldn't be any reason not to apply it to the whole area. Swings
are the most common case, though there are baby slides and roundabouts
near us as well.

I suppose what makes it for babies is that there is some postural
support, or some form of restraint for small children who don't have
the sense not to stand up and wander off while they are (say) at the
highest point on a swing! The age is inexact, which makes it hard to
specify. Or the equipment is very small, such that a fall from the top
of it wouldn't damage a very young child.

minage and maxage are in fairly common usage which is why I put them
on the proposal - to cover the cases where the operators of the play
area give a specific age/height range.

Antony.

On 14 May 2010 20:10, John Smith  wrote:
> On 15 May 2010 04:37, Erik Johansson  wrote:
>> Sure, I only want to use baby=yes to tag if there is toys for babies.
>> This is mostly used for swings so I'm not entirely sure it's needed.
>> :-)
>
> There could be an exclusive area for toddlers, another for children
> and so on, imho instead of saying babies, put age in years, eg 0-0.5
> or 0.5 to 2 or 2 to 7 etc...
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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 May 2010 04:37, Erik Johansson  wrote:
> Sure, I only want to use baby=yes to tag if there is toys for babies.
> This is mostly used for swings so I'm not entirely sure it's needed.
> :-)

There could be an exclusive area for toddlers, another for children
and so on, imho instead of saying babies, put age in years, eg 0-0.5
or 0.5 to 2 or 2 to 7 etc...

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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 May 2010 04:42, John Smith  wrote:
> On 15 May 2010 04:23, Phil! Gold  wrote:
>> Could that be unified with other access designations?  'baby=designated'
>> or 'baby=official'?
>
> It might be confusing to tag something arbitary as baby, wouldn't it
> be better to tag age appropriateness? and height appropriateness for
> that matter.
>
> For example I often see playgrounds tagged 0-7 years, or 100-200cm or
> 120+ cm tall etc...
>

age:min=0
age:max=7
height:min=1.2
height:max=2

etc...

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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 May 2010 04:23, Phil! Gold  wrote:
> Could that be unified with other access designations?  'baby=designated'
> or 'baby=official'?

It might be confusing to tag something arbitary as baby, wouldn't it
be better to tag age appropriateness? and height appropriateness for
that matter.

For example I often see playgrounds tagged 0-7 years, or 100-200cm or
120+ cm tall etc...

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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Phil! Gold  wrote:
> * Erik Johansson  [2010-05-14 18:29 +0200]:
>> If you tag highway=footway with bike=yes then you don't make it
>> exclusively for bikes. So if you tag a playground with baby=yes
>> shouldn't that just mean that there are some baby specific toys there,
>> and baby=no that there aren't any big structures for babies.
>>
>> Perhaps adding a baby=exclusive?
>
> Could that be unified with other access designations?  'baby=designated'
> or 'baby=official'?

Sure, I only want to use baby=yes to tag if there is toys for babies.
This is mostly used for swings so I'm not entirely sure it's needed.
:-)

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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Phil! Gold
* Erik Johansson  [2010-05-14 18:29 +0200]:
> If you tag highway=footway with bike=yes then you don't make it
> exclusively for bikes. So if you tag a playground with baby=yes
> shouldn't that just mean that there are some baby specific toys there,
> and baby=no that there aren't any big structures for babies.
> 
> Perhaps adding a baby=exclusive?

Could that be unified with other access designations?  'baby=designated'
or 'baby=official'?

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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:02 AM, antony.king
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We've been slowly mulling over the proposed playground extensions for
> the last couple of months,

And you did a very good job, I've always wondered what to call those
hanging roundabouts myself.

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Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:02 AM, antony.king
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We've been slowly mulling over the proposed playground extensions for
> the last couple of months, and I hope that we've covered all the
> ground that needs to be covered by now. Could those that care to vote,
> cast your votes on the page? If you disapprove, please say why and
> maybe we can continue the RFC stage for a little longer so as to get
> it right. I'm aware that there are a few people who have had input on
> this who disapprove of the whole voting concept; I'm not proposing we
> open that can of worms here but I am keen to formalise this properly.
>
> Here's the page:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Playground_Equipment
>
> Regards,


If you tag highway=footway with bike=yes then you don't make it
exclusively for bikes. So if you tag a playground with baby=yes
shouldn't that just mean that there are some baby specific toys there,
and baby=no that there aren't any big structures for babies.

Perhaps adding a baby=exclusive?

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[Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-13 Thread antony.king
Hi all,

We've been slowly mulling over the proposed playground extensions for
the last couple of months, and I hope that we've covered all the
ground that needs to be covered by now. Could those that care to vote,
cast your votes on the page? If you disapprove, please say why and
maybe we can continue the RFC stage for a little longer so as to get
it right. I'm aware that there are a few people who have had input on
this who disapprove of the whole voting concept; I'm not proposing we
open that can of worms here but I am keen to formalise this properly.

Here's the page:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Playground_Equipment

Regards,

Antony.

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