Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote, on 2014-08-28 13:16: +1, religious is no "use" why not, why is it not a "use" such as residential, commercial or retail use? and of no use (it doesn't express anything that religion=* won't express and > introduces an incompatibility for mapping the actual usage o

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

I see heavy use in Ireland, UK, and Japan, and there was a fellow from Japan I count a dozen uses in Japan. UK it's more common, but if you look closer it's again a handfull few mappers. And Polarbear a German mapper who also pushes this tag in the Wiki is for example remapping churchyards in

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

Andreas Goss wrote, on 2014-08-28 12:46: I removed it on several Wiki pages, including the Map Features template. I still have the impression that it's something a very few mappers use. > The usage numbers might look big, but if you take a closer look especially at Poland it's done by 1 mapp

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

> Il giorno 28/ago/2014, alle ore 12:46, Andreas Goss ha > scritto: > > I still have the impression that it's something a very few mappers use. The > usage numbers might look big, but if you take a closer look especially at > Poland it's done by 1 mapper. +1, religious is no "use" and of n

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

I removed it on several Wiki pages, including the Map Features template. I still have the impression that it's something a very few mappers use. The usage numbers might look big, but if you take a closer look especially at Poland it's done by 1 mapper. And I don't get the impression that he i

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

Tom, I think you are interpreting the tag amenity=place_of_worship too literally. In my opinion, this is not intended to only apply to the specific place or building where the actual worshiping happens. For one thing, we tag footways as highway=footway but footways are not highways. And we tag cit

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

> Il giorno 27/ago/2014, alle ore 15:26, Tom Pfeifer > ha scritto: > > How would you treat graveyards, as sacred and places of worship, > or not? What about the parking on the property? Usually graveyards (typically ancient burial places associated to a church and directly adjacent) will be

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

> Il giorno 27/ago/2014, alle ore 13:54, Mateusz Konieczny > ha scritto: > > 2014-08-27 11:51 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer >> >> We've always said that generalizing a detailed mapping in an automatic way >> is possible > > It is possible but sometimes it is really complicated. BTW, I freq

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote, on 2014-08-27 12:05: I'd like to bring the sacred area in (speaking about Christian religion here). In Italy we are using place of worship on the whole sacred area where known (I.e. Not only on the building). For practical reasons a lot of amenity placeofworships ar

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

2014-08-27 11:51 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer > > We've always said that generalizing a detailed mapping in an automatic way > is possible > It is possible but sometimes it is really complicated. BTW, I frequently map really small areas with their own landuses. __

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

> Il giorno 27/ago/2014, alle ore 10:54, Tom Pfeifer > ha scritto: > > If you have knowledge how the act of worshipping in a Buddhist temple > differs from a Christian church or Jewish synagogue, in particular in > being focussed on a particular building vs. practised in a more spatial > manne

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

> Il giorno 27/ago/2014, alle ore 10:47, Pieren ha scritto: > > Also I remember the time > we always said that landuse is intended for small scale mapping, not a > parcel scale. I have never seen it like that. Where there is a significantly different use of the land, also on one parcel or su

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

Eugene, I am not ignoring anything, I am arguing and listening. My "90%" were labelled as a guess in a discussion ("quite certainly"), the "1/3 of them have building tags" comes from taginfo. You give examples from 6 places where particular mappers use this style, this is also not a statistic. I

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > If you want to expand the meaning of this tag you would need a migration > strategy, > but I don't see it necessary. "landuse=religious" is consistent with > "commercial" > or "retail", where you can have different retail amenities or business

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > Thus the comparison with [amenity=school], that can be easily expanded to > the > whole campus, fails for [amenity=place_of_worship]. > > To conclude, [amenity=place_of_worship] should not be expanded to the > full campus, and [landuse=religi

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

Pieren wrote, on 2014-08-26 18:07: On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Thus the comparison with [amenity=school], that can be easily expanded to the whole campus, fails for [amenity=place_of_worship]. [...] I'm not following you here. Active or not doesn't change the fact tha

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > Thus the comparison with [amenity=school], that can be easily expanded to > the > whole campus, fails for [amenity=place_of_worship]. > > Thus, an active church building should be tagged > [amenity=place_of_worship] > [building=church] >

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

John Packer wrote, on 2014-08-26 16:57: I'm not against landuse=religious, but I'm not satisfied with it's current description: The area surrounding a amenity=place_of_worship used for religious purposes I believe a tag such as landuse=religious is inevitably going to be used as indicatin

[Tagging] Religious landuse

Hi, How did this topic turn out in the end? The wiki page Tag:landuse=religious [1] was translated to yet another language (japanese), and this tag is getting more uses (most likely due to being included as a preset in JOSM[2]), so I assume it's becoming de facto I'm not against landuse=religiou

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On 01.08.2014 14:31, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 2014-08-01 12:36 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann >: > > On 31.07.2014 11 :54, Marc Gemis wrote: > > Didn't JOSM include landuse=religion in the latest version ? > > An editor bug sounds like a good explanation for the

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-08-01 12:36 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > On 31.07.2014 11:54, Marc Gemis wrote: > > Didn't JOSM include landuse=religion in the latest version ? > > An editor bug sounds like a good explanation for the occurencies of that > erroneous tag in the database. > a) It is a really recent change

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On 31.07.2014 11:54, Marc Gemis wrote: > Didn't JOSM include landuse=religion in the latest version ? An editor bug sounds like a good explanation for the occurencies of that erroneous tag in the database. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wie

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

On 31.07.2014 17:17, Jesse B. Crawford wrote: > As a perhaps helpful example, near my old home in Portland, OR, USA there > was a "retreat" facility operated by the catholic diocese. It featured > extensive grounds that you might call a park, except that they were fenced > and intended for religiou

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jesse B. Crawford wrote: > As a perhaps helpful example, near my old home in Portland, OR, USA there > was a "retreat" facility operated by the catholic diocese. It featured > extensive grounds that you might call a park, except that they were fenced > and intended

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

As a perhaps helpful example, near my old home in Portland, OR, USA there was a "retreat" facility operated by the catholic diocese. It featured extensive grounds that you might call a park, except that they were fenced and intended for religious or reflective use, with shrines and such placed t

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233316289/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233031632/history They got replaced. But I admit it was less common than I thought. Just happened to click on one of those. There is not even one amenity=church_yard or churchyard (the latter being the correc

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

2014-07-31 15:33 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss : > He put an area around every church maybe 5-15m distance, that's pretty > much it. I admit it really looks like it's typical there to have a fence > sourounding a small area around the church, but do we need a landuse tag > for that, especially such a gen

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

If you look at http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=religious#map you see the highest density of use in Poland and Ireland, where apparently a lot of constellations are in need for such a tag. As far as I can see from Poland it is mainly the work of one mapper: https://www.google.com/#q

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Am 31.07.2014 06:24, schrieb Friedrich Volkmann: > On 16.07.2014 13:52, John Packer wrote: >> I saw on the wiki there was some changes on pages related to religious >> landuse. >> It seems there is this tag that was documented only recently (but has around >> 1500 uses, mostly on Europe), and is c

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

2014-07-31 14:31 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer : > If you look at http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=religious#map > you see > the highest density of use in Poland and Ireland, where apparently a lot of > constellations are in need for such a tag. > > Certainly it does not target a prayer room

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

-1 to "removing" as well, and I would appreciate a constructive discussion that does not qualify the thoughts of others as "nonsense", as long as they are not clearly malicious. If you look at http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=religious#map you see the highest density of use in Polan

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

-1 2014-07-31 11:47 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > > Am 31/lug/2014 um 06:24 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann : > > > > Therefore, I suggest removing landuse=religion from the wiki, or at > least to > > mark it as nonsensical. > > > +1, > > Martin > _

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Didn't JOSM include landuse=religion in the latest version ? On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Am 31/lug/2014 um 06:24 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann : > > > > Therefore, I suggest removing landuse=religion from the wiki, or at > least to

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 31/lug/2014 um 06:24 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann : > > Therefore, I suggest removing landuse=religion from the wiki, or at least to > mark it as nonsensical. +1, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On 16.07.2014 13:52, John Packer wrote: > I saw on the wiki there was some changes on pages related to religious > landuse. > It seems there is this tag that was documented only recently (but has around > 1500 uses, mostly on Europe), and is called landuse=religious I also wondered about that add

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 27/lug/2014 um 08:49 schrieb johnw : > > I think adding a subtag would eventually depreciate the amenity=townhall , > community_centre / community_hall, and library - at least as stand-alone > facilities I don't think so. It would be regression to step back from townhall and library to

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Jul 26, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > in this field (government agencies/institutions/services) we are lacking > almost all tags, but I would prefer to use something different than landuse > (or subtag for landuse) We're talking about a very simple landuse=civic (which

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 26/lug/2014 um 03:09 schrieb John Willis : > > does give the greatest benefit - because paired with a civic= sub tag, it can > help define a myriad of governmentish buildings and services that are beyond > the scope of city halls and community centers. agree that in this field (governme

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 25/lug/2014 um 18:48 schrieb John Packer : > > I don't know how common this practice is, but sometimes I see things like > landuse=commercial and landuse=residential applied to a relatively large area. yes, the size and generalization level vary a lot, but the tendency is to get them mo

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Sent from my iPad > On Jul 26, 2014, at 1:38 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2014-07-25 3:33 GMT+02:00 johnw : >> But for a majority of the buildings I'm mapping here in rural/"suburban" >> Japan, there isn't as much mixed use or repurposed use as you would imagine >> - most homes a

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Am 25.07.2014 18:48, schrieb John Packer: > I don't know how common this practice is, but sometimes I see things > like landuse=commercial and landuse=residential applied to a relatively > large area. Exactly, we should first clarify the proposed use of landuse=*. Is it considered for large areas

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

I don't know how common this practice is, but sometimes I see things like landuse=commercial and landuse=residential applied to a relatively large area. 2014-07-25 13:38 GMT-03:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-07-25 3:33 GMT+02:00 johnw : > > But for a majority of the buildings I'm mapping here

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-25 3:33 GMT+02:00 johnw : > But for a majority of the buildings I'm mapping here in rural/"suburban" > Japan, there isn't as much mixed use or repurposed use as you would imagine > - most homes are purpose-built 2 story, single family detached homes with a > wall around them. It is very e

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Martin - thanks for the thoughtful reply. I read it carefully, and I think you kind of misunderstood me again, please bare with me. On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2014-07-24 1:01 GMT+02:00 johnw : > My Main question is on my understanding of the landuse+building t

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-24 1:01 GMT+02:00 johnw : > My Main question is on my understanding of the landuse+building tagging > scheme. > I don't think there is a 1:1 relationship. "building" describes the type of the building, while landuse the _use_ of the land. Just yesterday evening I saw a mosque in the grou

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-24 1:01 GMT+02:00 johnw : > My Main question is on my understanding of the landuse+building tagging > scheme. > I don't think there is a 1:1 relationship. "building" describes the type of the building, while landuse the _use_ of the land. Just yesterday evening I saw a mosque in the grou

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I am not sure if I completely understand your question. I think the "rest" > (or whole area) can evventually be split over different landuses, that is not > a problem itself. "landuse" is not suited (IMHO) to create a feature on its

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-20 15:29 GMT+02:00 John Willis : > So what about the rest - the landuse for the area - is my basic > understanding remiss? Am I misinterpreting a basic tenent of OSM with my > statement on area defined by landuse and buildings and amenities over it? > > Even if you disagree on landuse=reli

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

So what about the rest - the landuse for the area - is my basic understanding remiss? Am I misinterpreting a basic tenent of OSM with my statement on area defined by landuse and buildings and amenities over it? Even if you disagree on landuse=religion, is that how the others work? Thanks for p

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Hey So far landuse is not misused that much than other tags. Yes, we have discussions how far landuse reaches and we, for sure, miss some like highway or a defined solution for mixed types. landuse=religion does not describe any landuse. It is about the owner of the property or maybe even only th

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 19/lug/2014 um 02:08 schrieb johnw : > > Landuse=transportation is disused too for stations, etc). there is already landuse=railway cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tag

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 19/lug/2014 um 02:08 schrieb johnw : > > So when tagging a business, a mall, or a apartment building, you map the area > it covers using landuse, add parking lots and other amenities on top, and put > the buildings in and tag the buildings with their use (offices, house, > apartment, etc

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Pieren wrote: > I'm surprised about this discussion. Think that > amenity=place_of_worship has to be treated like amenity=school. Nobody > is asking to create a landuse=school because it is rendered properly > on the main osm style Besides this discussion of Landuse

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 18/lug/2014 um 23:07 schrieb Brad Neuhauser : > > maybe other tags that apply, like amenity=monastery for a monastery there is also "community" proposed by FrViPofm http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:community the proposed values are a bit atypical for osm, as they are all abbreviate

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Cool, thanks for the examples! To clarify, I didn't say that method was invalid, I was saying that it didn't look very common to me. From what you sent, it appears I may be wrong about that. :) So, it looks like there are two distinct approaches to using the amenity=place_of_worship tag: 1) limit

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with "place_of_worship" >> only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. >> > > I hear what you're saying, but with a tag that's used 600K times (on 226K > way

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> > Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with "place_of_worship" > only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. > I hear what you're saying, but with a tag that's used 600K times (on 226K ways), we have to look at actual usage for part of our guidance.

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

As we all know, rendering is different from tagging. If people want to change how place_of_worship is rendered, that's a different issue for a different venue. This is about how to tag the data. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Piere

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 18/lug/2014 um 12:32 schrieb Eugene Alvin Villar : > > Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with "place_of_worship" > only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. To what else would you like to extend it? cheers, Martin __

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 18/lug/2014 um 12:50 schrieb John Sturdy : > > Some monasteries have quite extensive grounds which are "within the > monastic enclosure", that is, private to the monastic community and > subject to the same rules as the monastery (e.g. if it's a silent > order, that area of the grounds will

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Some monasteries have quite extensive grounds which are "within the monastic enclosure", that is, private to the monastic community and subject to the same rules as the monastery (e.g. if it's a silent order, that area of the grounds will be silent). __John ___

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I'm not sure "church grounds" is a place of worship. People don't usually > worship God in an organized manner besides the church. > There are actually a lot of churches where I am where the Catholic 14 Stations of the Cross are spread thro

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-18 11:15 GMT+02:00 Eugene Alvin Villar : > > +1. I've always ignored the fact that the main rendering draws > amenity=place_of_worship in a really dark color and I tag the whole church > grounds as amenity=place_of_worship and tag the church building itself with > building=church. This is

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Pieren wrote: > I'm surprised about this discussion. Think that > amenity=place_of_worship has to be treated like amenity=school. Nobody > is asking to create a landuse=school because it is rendered properly > on the main osm style. The problem is that amenity=pla

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 17/lug/2014 um 17:16 schrieb Brad Neuhauser : > > put an operator and/or religion tag on other mapped features in the area, +1, not necessarily "on other features", you could try to find a tag that describes the area as a whole, but a religion and operator tag will express the basic de

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Schools are an interesting case for comparison, as on the surface they seem similar. But here's where I see the distinction: many times the entire school grounds is used for school activities (including things like building, playground, sports pitch, parking, etc). But with place of worship, it is

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 17/lug/2014 um 10:46 schrieb Pieren : > > The problem is that amenity=place_of_worship is > always rendered as a building even when it could be a bigger area > (like for schools). In the Christian religion (which is where I happen to map, don't know about other religions) I use this tag

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 17/lug/2014 um 11:08 schrieb johnw : > > Describing other grounds - education, retail, industrial, etc all fall under > landuse. I don't see it like that. landuse should be the landuse, for facilities you should use a distinct tag, e.g. man_made=works office=* shop=* or amenity=school

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Still not convinced about landuse=religious (could be owner_type=religious). On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > >> Am 16/lug/2014 um 23:43 schrieb John Willis : >> >> It is all a single place, operated by the monks and priests that live or >> work there. For the p

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Would you tag all those (e.g. the preschool) with landuse=industrial if the > site was owned and operated by Mercedes Benz? I might, if it is a single building in the center of a sheet metal stamping plant, or a room in the office building onsite. Just as we tag shops at an airport terminal

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I'm surprised about this discussion. Think that amenity=place_of_worship has to be treated like amenity=school. Nobody is asking to create a landuse=school because it is rendered properly on the main osm style. The problem is that ameni

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 16/lug/2014 um 23:43 schrieb John Willis : > > It is all a single place, operated by the monks and priests that live or work > there. For the past 1100 years (it was founded around 900ad). It all has a > single outer wall or barrier, and is considered the "Naritasan temple grounds" so m

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 17/lug/2014 um 09:35 schrieb johnw : > > My Parent's presbyterian Church in San Diego has a very large chapel > building, a religious pre-school & kindergarten, a meeting hall, the church > office building, and a playground for the preschool. There is one sign and > one driveway on the

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Jul 17, 2014, at 7:20 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > landuse=japanese_temple_grounds, or landuse=buddhist_temple_grounds, or maybe > something nicer. My Parent's presbyterian Church in San Diego has a very large chapel building, a religious pre-school & kindergarten, a meeting hall, the churc

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I wouldn't give this tag a general name like landuse=religious. People from > all over will use this like they see fit, and the tag will soon lose > meaning. If Japanese temples usually have grounds around them that have > religious connotati

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Jul 16, 2014 1:42 PM, "John Willis" wrote: > Landuse=religious gives us a generic tag, like landuse retail or commercial, without having to be so specific. I'm going to tag my house and garden landuse=atheism -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

I wouldn't give this tag a general name like landuse=religious. People from all over will use this like they see fit, and the tag will soon lose meaning. If Japanese temples usually have grounds around them that have religious connotations, then I would call it something like landuse=japanese_templ

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Sure - the land is all owned by the temple. The schools are run by the temple. The private residence is the monks residence. He lives next to and operates the temple. In Japan, "next to" usually means attached or less than 1m separating the buildings. As many functions are jammed together. Many

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

I don't know what John's example is, but it would make sense to me to include the private residence if it is a place where people who are part of the religious community live, for example a parsonage or a dormitory of a monastery. Regarding gardens, they may have a religious purpose (meditation an

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

> Am 16/lug/2014 um 14:42 schrieb John Willis : > > Next to my house is another temple with a giant cemetery, temple building, > bell tower, private residence, and a public garden. The temple certainly is a > place of worship, the garden is not. Could you expand the idea that the private res

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

Mixed use facilities run by a single organization, for example, a temple with a private home, a cemetery, a public recycling center, and a pre-school might have the outer area defined by the landuse=religious tag, and the individual buildings/areas tagged as needed. Really, that facility is 1k

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:52 PM, John Packer wrote: > Does this seems correct? It's something else and is related to a "rendering" issue. The place_of_worship area is rendered as a black area on the map and is usually placed on the building polygon. If you want to draw to whole place which can be

[Tagging] Religious landuse?

Hi, I saw on the wiki there was some changes on pages related to religious landuse. It seems there is this tag that was documented only recently (but has around 1500 uses, mostly on Europe), and is called landuse=religious In my opinion, it seems this tag conflicts with amenity=place_of_worship i