Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: for a trail that anyone can use, but only after buying a permit. I would use rather fee=yes and toll=yes rather than introducing yet another tag value. That would confuse the heck out of me. From that tagging I'd

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-10 15:33, Volker Schmidt wrote : We do have here roads where access with motor vehicles is limited to residents plus residents of the town, where the road is. Example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/H5QZAcvCLQBwhbF4u2mq7w (zoom in to read the details) How do I tag such situation?

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-11 11:25 GMT+02:00 p...@trigpoint.me.uk: s'. I know the literal translation is residents, but a delivery driver or a friend visiting would be allowed to drive there. I would use access = destination in these cases. in Italy there are cases where destination doesn't hit it, because

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread phil
On Mon May 11 10:03:48 2015 GMT+0100, André Pirard wrote: On 2015-05-10 15:33, Volker Schmidt wrote : We do have here roads where access with motor vehicles is limited to residents plus residents of the town, where the road is. Example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/H5QZAcvCLQBwhbF4u2mq7w

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-11 0:22 GMT+02:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: I'd say the simple answer is access=private. Anyone who has access knows they have access, and don't need OSM to tell them. private might be a good value for cases where you do need a written permission, IMHO this residents

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
At some point you throw up your hands and ask what does it say on the sign? access:motorcar=see_note barrier=sign sign:text=Requires campus NL permit with toll tag transponder. Delivery excepted. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread Volker Schmidt
My original question refers to the case of several roads where: (a) motor_vehicles=destination applies for everyone plus (b) residents of a specific village have full motor_vehicle access (indepenently of their destination) On 11 May 2015 at 11:43, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: At

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: In the USA one occasionally sees local traffic only signed. It's meant to counter cut-through traffic by commuters and delivery trucks. Usually that would be access=destination. Not quite the same that you can only

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
In the USA one occasionally sees local traffic only signed. It's meant to counter cut-through traffic by commuters and delivery trucks. One city installed physical barriers to such use: http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentDisplay.aspx?id=8238#Diverters

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 10 May 2015 15:22:38 -0700 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: I'd say the simple answer is access=private. Anyone who has access knows they have access, and don't need OSM to tell them. That said I did just map access=permit_required + bicycle=no for a trail that anyone

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-10 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'd say the simple answer is access=private. Anyone who has access knows they have access, and don't need OSM to tell them. That said I did just map access=permit_required + bicycle=no for a trail that anyone can use, but only after buying a permit. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Volker

[Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-10 Thread Volker Schmidt
We do have here roads where access with motor vehicles is limited to residents plus residents of the town, where the road is. Example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/H5QZAcvCLQBwhbF4u2mq7w (zoom in to read the details) How do I tag such situation? ___