On Monday, 10 October 2011, Peter Wendorff
wrote:
> Hi.
> I think, the last argument Martin has in his reply is the most important
one:
> Tagging the width of steps is simple - and useful independant of other
proposals for mapping steps, if it's equal in general from top to bottom.
>
> But one usu
Hi.
I think, the last argument Martin has in his reply is the most important
one:
Tagging the width of steps is simple - and useful independant of other
proposals for mapping steps, if it's equal in general from top to bottom.
But one usual case is, that steps are around a building etc., so th
2011/10/10 John Sturdy :
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:50 PM, David Earl wrote:
>> Any suggestions as to how to represent some steps...
>>
>> These steps aren't that unusual I guess, but they aren't a staircase. They
>> form the edges of a piazza-like platform, running most of the way around it.
>> T
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:50 PM, David Earl wrote:
> Any suggestions as to how to represent some steps...
>
> These steps aren't that unusual I guess, but they aren't a staircase. They
> form the edges of a piazza-like platform, running most of the way around it.
> There are only 4 steps, but they
Am 10.10.2011 01:05, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
> 2011/10/10 Martin Koppenhoefer :
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Area#area-steps
>
> Not sure how we should proceed to keep routing working.
In my opinion, the least painful option is to simply continue mapping
highway=s
2011/10/10 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> I also have a proposal running for this kind of feature:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Area#area-steps
Not sure how we should proceed to keep routing working.
a) Either we'd expect software that prepares OSM-data for routing to
transf
I also have a proposal running for this kind of feature:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Area#area-steps
According to this proposal you'd draw at least the lower and the upper
border of the steps as ways (possibly with an equal amount of nodes
each)
Then make a relation and
2011/10/7 David Earl
> On 07/10/2011 18:13, Peter Wendorff wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, but perhaps the area:highway-proposal [1] is useful here.
>>
>
> There are already numerous highway areas for things like market places and
> piazzas, but it's done as highway=x;area=yes, not with its own key. Th
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote:
> Am 07.10.2011 20:18, schrieb David Earl:
>
>
>> The additional highway:steps would stay at separate ways "on top" of the
>>> area.
>>>
>>
>> This shouldn't be necessary, any more than any other highway area. It's
>> like putting a node for p
Am 07.10.2011 20:18, schrieb David Earl:
The additional highway:steps would stay at separate ways "on top" of the
area.
This shouldn't be necessary, any more than any other highway area.
It's like putting a node for parking in the middle of a parking area.
I don't see how you are able to tag
On 07/10/2011 18:13, Peter Wendorff wrote:
I'm not sure, but perhaps the area:highway-proposal [1] is useful here.
There are already numerous highway areas for things like market places
and piazzas, but it's done as highway=x;area=yes, not with its own key.
These are properly rendered on Mapn
Hi.
I stumbled upon that issue several times, yet.
I'm not sure, but perhaps the area:highway-proposal [1] is useful here.
Before we have to discuss the general pros and cons of that proposal: I
don't think it's necessary to tag all streets with an area (but it would
be possible, sure), and I do
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:50 PM, David Earl wrote:
> Any suggestions as to how to represent some steps...
>
> These steps aren't that unusual I guess, but they aren't a staircase. They
> form the edges of a piazza-like platform, running most of the way around it.
> There are only 4 steps, but they
2011/10/7 David Earl
> Any suggestions as to how to represent some steps...
>
> These steps aren't that unusual I guess, but they aren't a staircase. They
> form the edges of a piazza-like platform, running most of the way around it.
> There are only 4 steps, but they are several of them, up to a
Any suggestions as to how to represent some steps...
These steps aren't that unusual I guess, but they aren't a staircase.
They form the edges of a piazza-like platform, running most of the way
around it. There are only 4 steps, but they are several of them, up to
about 40m wide: http://twitpi
2010/6/10 fly :
> and what happens with the rest of the steps on the right-hand-side
>
> You can not see it but the top 2 steps go off shape on the right side. - leads
> to one more relation.
OK, if outside the foto there is something happening like this, you
will need another relation for this.
Am 10.06.2010 15:22, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
> 2010/6/10 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
>> 2010/6/10 fly :
>>> Have a look:
>>> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/17927910
>>>
>>> I said it is even more complicated and even on this picture you do not see
>>> all
>>> steps !
>>
>>
>> OK, but the
2010/6/10 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
> 2010/6/10 fly :
>> Have a look:
>> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/17927910
>>
>> I said it is even more complicated and even on this picture you do not see
>> all
>> steps !
>
>
> OK, but the steps on the picture are not that complicated. You need
> onl
2010/6/10 fly :
> Have a look:
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/17927910
>
> I said it is even more complicated and even on this picture you do not see all
> steps !
OK, but the steps on the picture are not that complicated. You need
only 2 relations: one with 11 steps (or 12 if the lo
Am 10.06.2010 13:48, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
> 2010/6/10 fly :
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/957489
>
>
>> I still do not know where to put the information that you have to drop steps
>> from the bottom and not from the top.
>
>
> if you have different amount of steps insi
2010/6/10 fly :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/957489
> I still do not know where to put the information that you have to drop steps
> from the bottom and not from the top.
if you have different amount of steps inside the area, you will
currently have to model more than one relati
2010/6/10 fly :
> validator gives warnings about the lower/upper way because these ways do not
> have any tag.
> Do we need a tag for these ways ?
IMHO it shouldn't as the way is part of a relation. It doesn't for
mp-relations for instance.
cheers,
Martin
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fly wrote:
> validator gives warnings about the lower/upper way because these ways do not
> have any tag.
> Do we need a tag for these ways ?
>
I put source tags on ways in relations, even if the rest of the tags are
on the relation.
Cheers, Chris
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validator gives warnings about the lower/upper way because these ways do not
have any tag.
Do we need a tag for these ways ?
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I have used the area relation for a step. It is not complete yet (the step is
even more complicated) but we could use it as example and have a look who it is
rendered.
relation id:957489
I still do not know where to put the information that you have to drop steps
from the bottom and not from the
2010/6/9 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
> 0 for the lowest way
> 1 is at higher elevation than 0
> 2
> 3
sorry, forget about this, it makes things too complicated.
cheers,
Martin
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2010/6/9 Roy Wallace :
> So just to summarise, you would have a relation:
> type=area
> highway=steps
> step_count=15 (already documented on the wiki)
>
> with way members:
> role=lower,
> role=upper, and two
> role=lateral (I don't think these values need to be prefixed with steps:)
that's fine,
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:09 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
>
> actually this is not yet incorporated in the area proposal, that's why
> you might be confused, but it could be done with it.
So just to summarise, you would have a relation:
type=area
highway=steps
step_count=15 (already documented o
2010/6/8 fly :
> Interesting relation.
thanks, it is capable to model a lot more (lanes, road surface without
explicit "inner" borders, detailed barriers with less effort, ...),
but unfortunately I'm not a programmer to prove it could work.
> We need some examples as data to have a look at. May
Interesting relation.
We need some examples as data to have a look at. Maybe also a rendered example
would be nice.
I gonna try it with some stair these days.
I still wonder if the render-software will be able to reduces the steps by
itself. I have a stairway with 12 steps on the left and 7 steps
2010/6/7 Roy Wallace :
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:46 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
> Martin, I don't really know what you mean. Perhaps I don't understand
> the type=area proposal properly. Can you give us a full example (i.e.
> the tags) of how you would map those curved steps?
actually th
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:46 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
>
> To do this explicitly, you'd probably want to
>> map each step individually (as a curved way),
>
> you would do this following the area-proposal, but you would probably
> reduce it from "each step" to "each first and last step of a
>
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