Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

[Tom Pfeifer]

On 10.12.2018 00:29, Sérgio V. wrote:

Hi, I've found a playground equipment that is made to hang hammocks.


If it is playground equipment, you should use the playgound=* key.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:playground

tom


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Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

[Sergio Manzi]

Hi!

I think bridges are particullarly dangerous in this regard and we should 
definitely stop mapping them.

I was joking, my friend, and please accept my apologies if this has touched 
your sensibility or anybody's else.

Have a nice day,

Sergio

On 2018-12-10 06:57, Marc Gemis wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:44 AM Sergio Manzi  wrote:
>> Wow! Either those things are high enough that a would be suicide could make 
>> good use of them, or sooner or later a kid will loose an eye on one of those 
>> hooks...  :-/
>>
> So we should stop mapping railways because people commit suicide by
> throwing themselves in front of trains ?
> You cannot be held liable for mapping that something exists. You could
> write the city council though if you have concerns about the safety of
> the equipment.
>
> m.



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Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook (Sérgio V.)

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 10. Dec 2018, at 04:06, Michael Patrick  wrote:
> 
> My preference would be the hammock_hangout


+1, definitely the most intriguing of the mentioned terms.


Cheers, Martin 

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Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

[Marc Gemis]

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:44 AM Sergio Manzi  wrote:
>
> Wow! Either those things are high enough that a would be suicide could make 
> good use of them, or sooner or later a kid will loose an eye on one of those 
> hooks...  :-/
>

So we should stop mapping railways because people commit suicide by
throwing themselves in front of trains ?
You cannot be held liable for mapping that something exists. You could
write the city council though if you have concerns about the safety of
the equipment.

m.

p.s. you reaction immediately reminded of texts like
https://www.metv.com/lists/12-reasons-kids-from-the-60s-and-70s-shouldnt-be-alive-right-now
about how (overly) protective we became.

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Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

[Sergio Manzi]

Got it, thanks! Those ropes did look strange, didn't they? :-)

Sergio


On 2018-12-10 04:25, Michael Patrick wrote:
>
> ... beside, are you sure those hooks are for hammocks? How can you hang 3 
> hammocks radially from the center point? There doesn't seems to be enough 
> "angle" between them... Have you ever seen an actual hammock hanging from 
> there? Presence of the ropes makes me think they are thought for something 
> else...
>
>
> Oh, he is correct, it's even labeled as such. The 'ropes' are drawn in for 
> illustration.
>
> And I retract my suggestion, to hell with English, this is a case where the 
> non-English term is /vastly/ superior, more specific and expressive 
> .
>  And it is a beautiful sound. 
>
> Michael Patrick
>


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Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook (Sérgio V.)

[Michael Patrick]

>
> Hi, I've found a playground equipment that is made to hang hammocks.
> It's a kind of industrialized urban furniture specially made for it.
> This one consists of a central fixed pole and hook that can hang a limited
> number of hammocks in a radial disposition, each one with its other pole
> and hook (but it might exist other dispositions)
> We have no tag for "places for hammocks" until now.
>
> I was thinking if it could be tagged as:
> leisure=hammock_hook
> since what effectively assures its proper function is that it has hooks to
> hang hammocks.
> What do you think? Thank you in advance.
>

At least in the USA, the term "hammock hangout" (lowercase) appears in the
Hammockish sub-culture vernacular to be a place or event where single, but
far more prevalent, multiple hammocks can be installed on an ad hoc or
permanent basis.

The suspension technique isn't limited to just hooks, there are loops,
eyes, etc. - and the vertical supports are anything from natural trees to
building walls. The park equipment manufacturers use the rather bland
'stand' and the less common 'station'.

My preference would be the hammock_hangout, if you were to use some variant
of leisure=hammock_hook, it maybe should be hammock_hooks (plural), because
just a single hook available entails a less than optimum hammock
experience.

Michael Patrick
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Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

[Sergio Manzi]

Wow! Either those things are high enough that a would be suicide could make 
good use of them, or sooner or later a kid will loose an eye on one of those 
hooks...  :-/


My advice? Don't map those: you could be held liable...



On 2018-12-10 00:29, Sérgio V. wrote:
> Hi, I've found a playground equipment that is made to hang hammocks. 
> It's a kind of industrialized urban furniture specially made for it.
> This one consists of a central fixed pole and hook that can hang a limited 
> number of hammocks in a radial disposition,
> each one with its other pole and hook (but it might exist other 
> dispositions), as it can be seen here:
> https://i.imgur.com/4faaneS.jpg
> In portuguese it was named "redário" ("a place for hammocks": "rede" meaning 
> the mesh; the suffix "-ario" as the latin for "a place for", like in 
> "orchid-arium").
> It was found here:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6127201547
> It would be nice to have a tag to it.
>
> Also considering that the representative image for "key:leisure", as it is in 
> the wiki page of
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leisure ,
> actually is a hammock:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Hammock_-_Polynesia.jpg ,
> and which also represents the wikidata image for "leisure":
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q379
> We have no tag for "places for hammocks" until now.
>
> I was thinking if it could be tagged as:
> leisure=hammock_hook 
> since what effectively assures its proper function is that it has hooks to 
> hang hammocks.
> What do you think? Thank you in advance. 
>
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Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

[Warin]

On 10/12/18 10:47, Sergio Manzi wrote:


... beside, are you sure those hooks are for hammocks? How can you 
hang 3 hammocks radially from the center point? There doesn't seems to 
be enough "angle" between them... Have you ever seen an actual hammock 
hanging from there? Presence of the ropes makes me think they are 
thought for something else...




A spiders web made out of rope - made for people to climb on?
Possibly removed due to the probability of a fall resulting in serious 
injury.


I too would not map it .. until I saw it in use.



On 2018-12-10 00:40, Sergio Manzi wrote:


Wow! Either those things are high enough that a would be suicide 
could make good use of them, or sooner or later a kid will loose an 
eye on one of those hooks...  :-/



My advice? Don't map those: you could be held liable...



On 2018-12-10 00:29, Sérgio V. wrote:

Hi, I've found a playground equipment that is made to hang hammocks.
It's a kind of industrialized urban furniture specially made for it.
This one consists of a central fixed pole and hook that can hang a 
limited number of hammocks in a radial disposition,
each one with its other pole and hook (but it might exist other 
dispositions), as it can be seen here:

https://i.imgur.com/4faaneS.jpg
In portuguese it was named "redário" ("a place for hammocks": "rede" 
meaning the mesh; the suffix "-ario" as the latin for "a place for", 
like in "orchid-arium").

It was found here:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6127201547
It would be nice to have a tag to it.

Also considering that the representative image for "key:leisure", as 
it is in the wiki page of

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leisure ,
actually is a hammock:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Hammock_-_Polynesia.jpg ,
and which also represents the wikidata image for "leisure":
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q379
We have no tag for "places for hammocks" until now.

I was thinking if it could be tagged as:
leisure=hammock_hook
since what effectively assures its proper function is that it has 
hooks to hang hammocks.

What do you think? Thank you in advance.

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Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

[Sergio Manzi]

... beside, are you sure those hooks are for hammocks? How can you hang 3 
hammocks radially from the center point? There doesn't seems to be enough 
"angle" between them... Have you ever seen an actual hammock hanging from 
there? Presence of the ropes makes me think they are thought for something 
else...


On 2018-12-10 00:40, Sergio Manzi wrote:
>
> Wow! Either those things are high enough that a would be suicide could make 
> good use of them, or sooner or later a kid will loose an eye on one of those 
> hooks...  :-/
>
>
> My advice? Don't map those: you could be held liable...
>
>
>
> On 2018-12-10 00:29, Sérgio V. wrote:
>> Hi, I've found a playground equipment that is made to hang hammocks. 
>> It's a kind of industrialized urban furniture specially made for it.
>> This one consists of a central fixed pole and hook that can hang a limited 
>> number of hammocks in a radial disposition,
>> each one with its other pole and hook (but it might exist other 
>> dispositions), as it can be seen here:
>> https://i.imgur.com/4faaneS.jpg
>> In portuguese it was named "redário" ("a place for hammocks": "rede" meaning 
>> the mesh; the suffix "-ario" as the latin for "a place for", like in 
>> "orchid-arium").
>> It was found here:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6127201547
>> It would be nice to have a tag to it.
>>
>> Also considering that the representative image for "key:leisure", as it is 
>> in the wiki page of
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leisure ,
>> actually is a hammock:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Hammock_-_Polynesia.jpg ,
>> and which also represents the wikidata image for "leisure":
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q379
>> We have no tag for "places for hammocks" until now.
>>
>> I was thinking if it could be tagged as:
>> leisure=hammock_hook 
>> since what effectively assures its proper function is that it has hooks to 
>> hang hammocks.
>> What do you think? Thank you in advance. 
>>
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[Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

[Sérgio V .]

Hi, I've found a playground equipment that is made to hang hammocks.
It's a kind of industrialized urban furniture specially made for it.
This one consists of a central fixed pole and hook that can hang a limited 
number of hammocks in a radial disposition,
each one with its other pole and hook (but it might exist other dispositions), 
as it can be seen here:
https://i.imgur.com/4faaneS.jpg
In portuguese it was named "redário" ("a place for hammocks": "rede" meaning 
the mesh; the suffix "-ario" as the latin for "a place for", like in 
"orchid-arium").
It was found here:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6127201547
It would be nice to have a tag to it.

Also considering that the representative image for "key:leisure", as it is in 
the wiki page of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leisure ,
actually is a hammock:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Hammock_-_Polynesia.jpg ,
and which also represents the wikidata image for "leisure":
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q379
We have no tag for "places for hammocks" until now.

I was thinking if it could be tagged as:
leisure=hammock_hook
since what effectively assures its proper function is that it has hooks to hang 
hammocks.
What do you think? Thank you in advance.


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