Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-11-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Mateusz Konieczny writes: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:59:41 +0200 > David Marchal wrote: > >> Thanks for the full story, Lauri. I understand now why the subject >> seems so sensitive to some. I retain from your story, if I correctly >> understood it that:*

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-11-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:59:41 +0200 David Marchal wrote: > Thanks for the full story, Lauri. I understand now why the subject > seems so sensitive to some. I retain from your story, if I correctly > understood it that:* the current usage of minor_line/line is the one > I

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-11-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:16:55 -0400 Bryan Housel wrote: > Trying to define this based on line voltage or tower heights or > danger to aircraft is silly. Transmission and distribution lines can > be located underground. Why? For almost everybody electric lines are

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-11-03 Thread François Lacombe
2015-11-03 10:39 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:16:55 -0400 > Bryan Housel wrote: > >> Trying to define this based on line voltage or tower heights or >> danger to aircraft is silly. Transmission and distribution lines can >>

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-16 Thread David Marchal
> From: g...@ir.bbn.com > To: pene...@live.fr > CC: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:12:55 -0400 > I'm coming into this late, but I think key questions are: > > transmission vs distribution:

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
more complexity to an already complex question? Regards. > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:02:07 +0200 > From: fl.infosrese...@gmail.com > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line > > We are not talking about stop to differentiate powe

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
if some others, as the distribution/transport distinction, isn't modelled. Am I correct? Regards. > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:12:02 +0300 > From: lkyto...@gmail.com > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line > > David Marcha

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
+0200 From: dieterdre...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line the problem is that people often can't provide the information about voltage or operator, so you will end up with minor distribution lines tagged as power=line and nothing else

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
David Marchal wrote: > I saw conflicting points of view regarding the difference between these two > ways for modelling aerial power lines: some say that it is the voltage which > matters, others say that it's the visibility difference that matters, others Hi. To properly understand this issue,

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-15 11:31 GMT+02:00 Éric Gillet : > If the height of a mountain define its importante, simply use the 'ele=*' > attribute to sort them, no need for another subjective 'importante' tag. on a side note, it is not simple as that, because a peak is just local, the

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Éric Gillet
> > > On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:02 AM, François Lacombe > wrote: > > > > importance=* > > That word is not allowed over in -carto github, no matter how relevant or > useful - like with mountains or regional features that need to shown at > varying z levels based on...

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Éric Gillet
2015-10-15 11:31 GMT+02:00 Éric Gillet : > > If the height of a mountain define its importance, simply use the 'ele=*' > attribute to sort them, no need for another subjective 'importance' tag. > Sorry for typos in my previous email, I meant 'importance' and not

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:02 AM, François Lacombe > wrote: > > importance=* That word is not allowed over in -carto github, no matter how relevant or useful - like with mountains or regional features that need to shown at varying z levels based on... Importance.

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Oct 15, 2015, at 12:11 AM, David Marchal wrote: > > Do you mean that the landscape impact criteria is already the one used to > distinguish minor_line and line? I think he means that there is usually a huge difference in voltage and line type between lines on

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Greg Troxel
David Marchal writes: > Thanks for the full story, Lauri. I understand now why the subject > seems so sensitive to some. I retain from your story, if I correctly > understood it that:* the current usage of minor_line/line is the one I > previously suggested: use minor_line for

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
Javbw On Oct 15, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Éric Gillet wrote: >> > On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:02 AM, François Lacombe >> > wrote: >> > >> > importance=* >> >> That word is not allowed over in -carto github, no matter how relevant or >> useful -

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-13 22:48 GMT+02:00 François Lacombe : > As consumers may not be able to make the right distinction between minor > or major lines, I assume using power=line only, in continental France and > always in combination with voltage=* and operator=*. > > Thus both

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-14 Thread David Marchal
, the stylesheet guys made a logical choice, why not adopting the same? Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:48:58 +0200 From: fl.infosrese...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line (Sent from a phone) Hi David, Many opinion exists regarding the minor or not line

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-14 Thread François Lacombe
...@ntlworld.com > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:14:48 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line > > Please remember that this is OpenStreetMap and most mappers are not experts > on the features they are mapping. It is my per

[Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-13 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I saw conflicting points of view regarding the difference between these two ways for modelling aerial power lines: some say that it is the voltage which matters, others say that it's the visibility difference that matters, others say that it's the danger for planes that matters,

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-13 Thread Bryan Housel
A simper way to describe this would be to say that: `power=line` is for “transmission” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transmission `power=minor_line` is for “distribution”

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-13 Thread David Marchal
the landscape criteria makes sense. From: br...@7thposition.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:16:55 -0400 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line A simper way to describe this would be to say that: `power=line` is for “transmission”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-13 Thread François Lacombe
2015 10:16:55 -0400 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line > > > A simper way to describe this would be to say that: > > `power=line` is for “transmission” > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transmission > > `power=m

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-13 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > A simper way to describe this would be to say that: > > `power=line` is for “transmission” > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transmission > > `power=minor_line` is for “distribution” >