I agree,
also here in germany its not defined what a kiosk offers.
Mostly it sells stuff like lottery-stuff, small tourism-stuff, papers,
food and drinks, sweets, ice-cream and so on.
But generall not all kiosks are selling food and not all of them
ice-cream and even not all of them are selling
2010/10/18 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 04:08:13 Richard Welty escribió:
On 10/17/10 11:00 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
So, are you saying that a shop that was located in a kiosk building, but
sold merchandise other than cigarettes, newspapers,
From: dieterdre...@gmail.com
To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Tagging] shop=kiosk
2010/10/18 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 04:08:13 Richard Welty escribió:
On 10/17/10 11:00 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
So, are you saying that a shop
maybe:
building=kiosk
shop=newsagent
and just leave it to local knowledge to know whether a newsagent
typically sells sweets/tobacco/tickets
The only one I'd have said was worth tagging individually was whether
they sell bus tickets:
bus_tickets=yes/no?
Richard
I agree too to the actual shop=kiosk system, since it refers to what is
actually sold at certain places
a little shop selling cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages
I strongly disagree.
shop=kiosk is a very strange kind of tag. It says all about design of a
shop, but says
2010/10/18 SURLY_ru p...@isnet.ru:
I agree too to the actual shop=kiosk system, since it refers to what is
actually sold at certain places
a little shop selling cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages
I strongly disagree.
shop=kiosk is a very strange kind of tag. It says all
On 18.10.2010 10:42, SURLY_ru wrote:
So there is no typical assortment of goods sold in kiosks.
May be in the international scope - and therefore you are right, I think.
It would be better
to tag kiosks as ordinary shop (shop=convenience, shop=news_agent,
shop=greengrocer or even
On 10/18/10 4:27 AM, Richard Mann wrote:
maybe:
building=kiosk
shop=newsagent
and just leave it to local knowledge to know whether a newsagent
typically sells sweets/tobacco/tickets
The only one I'd have said was worth tagging individually was whether
they sell bus tickets:
-be business
people.
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From :mailto:env...@rolamasao.org
Date :Sun Oct 17 22:19:37 America/Chicago 2010
On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 04:08:13 Richard Welty escribió:
On 10/17/10 11:00 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
So, are you saying
On 10/18/10 9:04 AM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
However, a shop, located in a kiosk, that is selling cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks
and beverages is not selling kiosks, so labeling it with shop=kiosk breaks the label
according to the merchandise sold principle. A shop that sold kiosks
On 19 October 2010 00:04, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
this is why i'd prefer to see something like this:
shop=newstand
kiosk=yes
You could indicate the type of kiosk, eg
kiosk=stand|building etc
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On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 08:55:49 Gianfra g escribió:
I agree with Martin.
We need to distinguish between the building=kiosk that is a one room
solitary building, from the shop=kiosk activity because somewhere the
kiosk moved from the solitary building to some windows in a bigger
building.
by your own description, a kiosk shop does not sell kiosks, and all of the
goods described are also for sale in larger shops that are not called kiosks.
So, the term is a description of the building, not of the goods sold from the
building.
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Am 18.10.2010 15:04, schrieb j...@jfeldredge.com:
However, a shop, located in a kiosk, that is selling cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks
and beverages is not selling kiosks, so labeling it with shop=kiosk breaks the label
according to the merchandise sold principle. A shop that sold
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.comwrote:
So a supermarket is selling super markets?!?
arf ;-)
And the next proposal will be to replace amenity=pharmacy by
building=pharmacy + shop=drugs; thermometer=yes
Pieren
2010/10/18 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
Am 18.10.2010 15:04, schrieb j...@jfeldredge.com:
However, a shop, located in a kiosk, that is selling cigarettes,
newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages is not selling kiosks, so labeling
it with shop=kiosk breaks the label according to
Am 19.10.2010 00:10, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
could be either food or newspapers/tobacco/sweets/etc. and/or lotto
and/or public transport tickets and/or telephone cards and/or flowers
etc., so it doesn't fit into shop=xy because it doesn't allow to
deduct what is sold/which service is
2010/10/19 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
Use building=kiosk for a kiosk like building.
+1
Use shop=kiosk for a shop that sells kiosk like stuff.
my point was that there is no kiosk like stuff
If something else is sold, use shop=florist, shop=xy ...
something else then what?
On 10/18/10 7:23 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2010/10/19 Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
Use shop=kiosk for a shop that sells kiosk like stuff.
my point was that there is no kiosk like stuff
precisely. we have kiosks all over the place, what they
sell varies quite a lot.
Am 19.10.2010 01:23, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
my point was that there is no kiosk like stuff
I'm not living in a black and white world - do you?
There's a list of stuff potentially sold in a kiosk (at least here in
germany).
I don't know if I can buy public transport tickets at a
2010/10/19 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
Am 19.10.2010 01:23, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
my point was that there is no kiosk like stuff
There's a list of stuff potentially sold in a kiosk (at least here in
germany).
I know, and from a German perspective it's easier to follow you,
the usage in a
single country. Where there is a dispute, we tend to fall back to British
usage. For any UK folks on the list, what goods would you expect a kiosk store
to sell, by default?
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From :mailto:ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com
Date
On Martes 19 Octubre 2010 02:28:39 John F. Eldredge escribió:
What if a country does have kiosks, but the list of goods most often sold
at kiosks is different than what the usual list would be in Germany? Are
we likely to end up with an edit war on the wiki? I thought one of the
goals was to
shops should be tagged with shop=shop category, which refers to the
kind of stuff sold, also in cases like supermarket or convenience,
which are less obvious then e.g. shop=electronics.
shop=kiosk breaks this rule, as it doesn't refer to the sold products
but to the building typology.
Therefore
Am 17.10.2010 11:52, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
shops should be tagged with shop=shop category, which refers to the
kind of stuff sold, also in cases like supermarket or convenience,
which are less obvious then e.g. shop=electronics.
shop=kiosk breaks this rule, as it doesn't refer to the
Hi Martin.
I fear, this proposal would not lead to a better solution - at least, as
long there is no good solution for the multivalue-problem discussed
currently.
I think, shop=kiosk referres to a usual mixture of goods sold there:
newspapers, lottery-stuff, tobacco, sweets.
On Domingo 17 Octubre 2010 10:52:15 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
shops should be tagged with shop=shop category, which refers to the
kind of stuff sold, also in cases like supermarket or convenience,
which are less obvious then e.g. shop=electronics.
shop=kiosk breaks this rule, as it
So, are you saying that a shop that was located in a kiosk building, but sold
merchandise other than cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages
would have a tag building=kiosk, but would not have the tag shop=kiosk?
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From
On 10/17/10 11:00 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
So, are you saying that a shop that was located in a kiosk building, but sold merchandise
other than cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages would have a
tag building=kiosk, but would not have the tag shop=kiosk?
what of kiosks in
On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 04:08:13 Richard Welty escribió:
On 10/17/10 11:00 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
So, are you saying that a shop that was located in a kiosk building, but
sold merchandise other than cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and
beverages would have a tag
On 10/17/10 11:19 PM, Noel David Torres Taño wrote:
Hello richard and john:
If they do not sell cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages
they are not shop=kiosk. They are shop=jewelry or shop=boutique or
shop=mobile_phone.
ok, but this is going to be really error prone. novice
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