Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Mann
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Tyler Gunn ty...@egunn.com wrote: I think this is a HUGE improvement over what Google Maps shows: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.82372lon=-97.20104zoom=16layers=B000FTF Tyler Yup, the parking lots give you a real feel for the place. Richard

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 6 May 2010 19:27, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: In the UK, they'd almost certainly be tagged as supermarkets, since our stores tend to have one product area dominant (eg groceries). Department stores are large

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 Tyler Gunn ty...@egunn.com: Here's the same area in OSM; I've added a lot of detail to this shopping district including parking lots, buildings, and started to put in POIs.  I think this is a HUGE improvement over what Google Maps shows:

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a small percentage of their floor space to groceries. The so-called super WalMarts have a full range of groceries; even so, the grocery section takes up only 20 percent or so of the store. --Original Message--

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a small percentage of their floor space to groceries.  The so-called super WalMarts have a full range of groceries; even so, the grocery section takes up only 20 percent or

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 Jonas Minnberg sas...@gmail.com: landuse=lawn (For smaller areas of kept grass that are either inaccessible or not meant to - you know - picnic on or similar). landuse=yard (For private backyards etc, usually inaccessible, even if they may look park-like on the satellite). For the

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 8:47 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/5/6 John F. Eldredgej...@jfeldredge.com: From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a small percentage of their floor space to groceries. The so-called super WalMarts have a full range of groceries; even

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-06 Thread Tyler Gunn
On Thu, 6 May 2010 12:37:10 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer +1, nice. cheers, Martin It definitely shows how incredibly pedestrian-unfriendly these big suburban box store malls are. There are buildings in a sea of parking lots. Lol. Tyler ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: most of these stores devote no more than 5 or 10% of their floorspace to food, and are otherwise inexpensive department stores, and i'm certainly having trouble seeing how 10% of their stock overrides the other 90% when it comes to tagging. I

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department stores and maybe others. usable with any shop= where appropriate? i can see that. richard

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
I am saying that, since the standard meaning of supermarket is grocery store, at least in the USA, tagging such stores as department stores would more accurately reflect the merchandise available than tagging them as supermarkets. --Original Message-- From: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer To: John

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Katie Filbert
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: I see. The type of discout stores we have here (there should be some wallmart as well, but I personally never encountered one) usually are mainly for food and have just occasionally some non-food articles (maybe

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 Tyler Gunn ty...@egunn.com: On Thu, 6 May 2010 12:37:10 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer +1, nice. cheers, Martin It definitely shows how incredibly pedestrian-unfriendly these big suburban box store malls are.  There are buildings in a sea of parking lots.  Lol. sure. Mapping

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Craig Wallace
On 06/05/2010 13:49, Jonas Minnberg wrote: Ok so I keep running into these; green areas visible on satellite imagery that are tagged as parks but aren't really. My first instinct was to remove them, but that was mostly met with skepticism and alternative tag suggestions. So I am thinking of

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Chris Hill
Jonas Minnberg wrote: [snip] landuse=yard (For private backyards etc, usually inaccessible, even if they may look park-like on the satellite). In the UK we would sometimes call a backyard a garden. leisure=garden already exists. Cheers, Chris

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 06 May 2010 15:06:36 Jonas Minnberg wrote: for the latter highway=pedestrian, area=yes. For accessibility use the access-tags, e.g. in your examples access=no and access=private. This would really confuse I think. This is not confusing, it is simply wrong. Nobody in his right

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2010 22:49, Jonas Minnberg sas...@gmail.com wrote: landuse=lawn (For smaller areas of kept grass that are either inaccessible or not meant to - you know - picnic on or similar). landuse=yard (For private backyards etc, usually inaccessible, even if they may look park-like on the

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl: On Thursday 06 May 2010 15:06:36 Jonas Minnberg wrote: for the latter highway=pedestrian, area=yes. For accessibility use the access-tags, e.g. in your examples access=no and access=private. This would really confuse I think. This is not confusing,

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: I think yard is a rather vague word, as it could also be a farmyard, industrial yard, courtyard, shipyard etc. That is what I like about it - when all I can find out about an area is that is green and lies in between

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xific...@gmail.com: To the proposed solutions in this thread: * highway=pedestrian, area=yes - It doesn't really make sense to me to tag private fenced and _green_ areas by highway tag. sure, for green areas it isn't, for paved ones it IMO is. *

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 06:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: and maybe also subtags for the use: a) flower garden b) fruit and vegetable / kitchen garden (what tag could suit this? type?) garden=horticulture ? horticulture=flowers|vegetables|fruit Although then you get into all

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Liz
On Thu, 6 May 2010, Richard Welty wrote: On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department stores and maybe others. usable with any shop= where appropriate? i can

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Jonas Minnberg sas...@gmail.com wrote: That is what I like about it - when all I can find out about an area is that is green and lies in between buildings, yard is an appropriately vague word. You say you only know two things: 1) it is green -- color=green

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 4:52 PM, Liz wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010, Richard Welty wrote: On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department stores and maybe others.

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 07:03, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement that one tier of department store (walmart, kmart, target) is discount with respect to another (macys, pennys, nordstrom, etc.) The same thing is true of

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Liz
On Fri, 7 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 7 May 2010 07:03, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement that one tier of department store (walmart, kmart, target) is discount with respect to another (macys, pennys,

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:13 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement that one tier of department store (walmart, kmart, target) is discount with respect to another (macys, pennys, nordstrom, etc.) The same thing

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 8:30 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: I disagree that there's broad agreement here on what stores are discount stores. I've never heard anyone in Australia refer to Kmart or Target as a discount store. I have heard this word used for, say, Crazy Clarks or Dollars and Sense. But I would have

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 10:30, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard anyone in Australia refer to Kmart or Target as a discount store. I have heard this word used for, say, Crazy Clarks or Dollars and Sense. But I would have trouble objectively defining what it is, exactly, that

[Tagging] Scales / weigh stations

2010-05-06 Thread Alan Mintz
Periodically along US highways, there are giant scales for trucks to get a weight certificate to comply with various laws. How should these be tagged? How about: highway=motorway_link for the ramps linking to the motorway highway=scale for the scale node/area -- Alan Mintz